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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:23 pm

Yes, that is my dilemma...a 6x12 or 7x12. I am not upgrading my TV because I love my Jeep. I used to have a Tahoe and downsized so it is the balance of room versus size I can tow. I am also toying with the 6x12 and still upgrading to the axel with brakes. However...I definitely want to try to get 7' high. Are you suggesting a 6x7x12 won't be doable?
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:28 pm

It all adds up. $450 for axel plus cost of upgraded tires and spare tire. And back to the whole leaf spring versus torsion...which people are arch enemies based on their adamant options on each. :)).
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:31 pm

David the 7x12 single axel has a 1290 dry weight. Even making it taller I have space to work with before I reach 3500. Is there another reason you think 7' is a bad idea with the Jeep other than weight?
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby MtnDon » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:48 pm

hikediveexploregirl wrote: ...a Jeep Wrangler 4D Unlimited 4x4 which only has a tow capacity of 3500 lbs.


With a TV factory recommended maximum tow capacity of 3500, I personally would not want to go beyond 2800 gross trailer weight. The vehicle manufacturers want to give you the most they can. It is my belief that 80% of what they say is a figure to aim to stay below. Others may disagree, but that is my 2 cents worth. I might be influenced by having some hills where I live. Also check your state regs for what gross weight requires trailer brakes.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:56 pm

I am already planning to add the upgraded axel
With brakes. I am a paranoid engineer. The 6x12 empty is 1220. The 7x12 is 1290. Seems like the extra foot width is worth 70 lbs. Thoughts? And sorry about taking over this thread! :)).
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby MtnDon » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:06 pm

hikediveexploregirl wrote:I am already planning to add the upgraded axel
With brakes.


My point was that I don't see any advantage to upgrading from the std axle that is 2990 lbs when from my own experiences I am pretty sure that towing near the max tow capacity of the TV will be an unhappy experience. Of course that is just an opinion.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby David_L6 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:07 pm

hikediveexploregirl wrote:Yes, that is my dilemma...a 6x12 or 7x12. I am not upgrading my TV because I love my Jeep. I used to have a Tahoe and downsized so it is the balance of room versus size I can tow. I am also toying with the 6x12 and still upgrading to the axle with brakes. However...I definitely want to try to get 7' high. Are you suggesting a 6x7x12 won't be doable?


First, I'm not sure you can get a 6' wide, 7' tall trailer - especially with a single axle. The company that built my 7' X 14' won't build one like that. They will build a 6' wide, 6.5' tall but not with a single axle - only a tandem. To get a 7' tall trailer from them it has to be 7' wide or wider.

The taller or wider the trailer the more difficult it's going to be to tow due to wind resistance. That's why I said 6.5' tall. Every little bit adds up... I like to be able to tow a trailer and barely know it's behind me. That's why I have a truck with MAX Trailering Pack (6.2 liter V8, larger rear end with 3.73 rear gears, etc., etc., etc.).
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:09 pm

Oh, gotcha! My reason for the upgrade to 3500 axel is to get the brakes. I figure brakes are rarely a bad thing. The ponder on the 5200 upgrade would be for sale or if by chance I sell my baby, my Jeep (surely NEVER)!! But, with my Jeep I don't intend to ever go over the 3500 and likely never close to it.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:12 pm

David, yes. This is why I was leaning towards a 7x7x12....or a 7x6.5x12 and not a 6' wide. The extra foot in width makes a huge difference. The only reason I would go with single axel is for the HUGE difference in weight. Cost isn't as much a concern. The dimensions on this trailer are giving me grey hair.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby David_L6 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:15 pm

hikediveexploregirl wrote:David the 7x12 single axel has a 1290 dry weight. Even making it taller I have space to work with before I reach 3500. Is there another reason you think 7' is a bad idea with the Jeep other than weight?


Yes, wind resistance.

Back when I raced hydroplanes I had an aluminum trailer that was very light weight. Up to 30 mph or so I could pull it with a 4 cylinder Toyota pickup. I couldn't get it much above 50 mph on flat, level ground in 4th gear (standard 5 speed) though - even empty. The drag was just too much for that little pickup. I could tow it 75+ mph fully loaded behind my Suburban no problem.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby David_L6 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:17 pm

hikediveexploregirl wrote:Oh, gotcha! My reason for the upgrade to 3500 axel is to get the brakes. I figure brakes are rarely a bad thing.


Very good thinking! I have had trailers with and without brakes. With is the way to go.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:20 pm

Yes, I would agree. That is my big concern. Maybe 6x6.5x12. Hmmmm
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby MtnDon » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:26 pm

David_L6 wrote: not sure you can get a 6' wide, 7' tall trailer - especially with a single axle.


If buying through The Trailer Showroom (name of this thread) they will build a 6 foot wide SA of darn near any height you want with changes in 6" increments.
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby MtnDon » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:36 pm

hikediveexploregirl wrote:.... if by chance I sell my baby, my Jeep (surely NEVER)!!


I owned 3 Jeeps spanning 33 consecutive years. During the time of owning each one I swore I would never sell it. I did though when another Jeep that did more came along. A couple years ago I hit the point where my last baby would not, could not do what I needed it to. It was a sad day, but I am now a happy Toyota owner. Yes, my 4WD club members gave me a hard time for a while. So never say never. :o :o
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Re: TheTrailerShowroom 7X14

Postby hikediveexploregirl » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:40 pm

I have owned extended Denalis, Tahoes, Blazers, etc. No one ever said, "I LOVE you....". My Jeep...I can barely keep people away from it. My current plan is to get my husband to give up his worthless infiniti sportscar for a truck! Makes great sense to me!! Hehe :). Thanks for your input and thanks for letting me steal the thread for a minute for advice!
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