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Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:25 am
by wyldesyde007
hankaye wrote:wyldesyde007, Howdy;

:thinking: Interesting concept. Looking forward to seeing how it works for ya.

hank


Thanks Hank. My main desire when I began this journey is to have a fold out which is hard sided, as a matter of fact my original design http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=70592 which was much more compact relied heavily on fold outs for space.

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:20 pm
by hankaye
wyldesyde007, Howdy;

Perhaps I a bit of a cynic :thinking: , perhaps it's from working on aircraft :roll: , helicopters more
specifically :worship: , but I'm of the opinion that the fewer moving parts the less there is to
go wrong ;) .

That said, still looking forward to your build.

hank

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:32 am
by wyldesyde007
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I finally made a trip to my local metal supplier on Friday to check out options but nothing sparked my imagination

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:42 am
by wyldesyde007
Saturday I finally had a breakthrough moment on just how I was going to make strong weatherproof connections between the roof and floor!

While I was shopping at Lowes yesterday I came across these, it's a piece of 1/4" X 1" aluminum extrusion and what was labeled as "1/4" plywood trim".
The two fit together with a slight bit of clearance which I had been hoping to find.
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Perfect! :twisted:


I also found this as an alternative, it's a piece of lattice channel from the deck section.
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Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:03 am
by rebar
And here we were thinking you were almost done.. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with because hard-side is sooo much better than the soft I "had" planned..

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:40 am
by wyldesyde007
Now to figure out which way would be best to attach the .25 X 1 extrusion to the panels :thinking:

I could surface mount it
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the benefit of this is simplicity and gaining a huge drip lip. The downside is there will be cross shear on the screws used to attach it.


On the other hand I could dado out a groove in the panel to insert the extrusion
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which "might" be sturdier

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:07 pm
by wyldesyde007
rebar wrote:And here we were thinking you were almost done.. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with because hard-side is sooo much better than the soft I "had" planned..

I think so to rebar! this has been my goal since day one when I began planning.

My main concern with soft sides was the lack of security and inclement weather,

On our last two tent camping trips we had to:
1. erect our tent in a full on down pour
2. we came back to completely soaked camping gear due to a freak thunderstorm blowing rain sideways and up and over our rainfly :thumbdown:

And the security thing? well, a friend of mine came by one day to show of his hybrid camper which had soft side popouts. He demonstrated how it was set up and as I watched him fold out the beds and VELCRO down the sides I asked "what's to stop someone from just peeling up the velcro and helping themselves to your laptop sitting on the bed?" he got a serious look and said "not a damn thing".

Not that I think the places we have or will visit are rampant with crime I'm just helping keep folks honest :thumbsup:

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:32 pm
by rebar
wyldesyde007 wrote:My main concern with soft sides was the lack of security and inclement weather,
And the security thing? well, a friend of mine came by one day to show of his hybrid camper which had soft side popouts. He demonstrated how it was set up and as I watched him fold out the beds and VELCRO down the sides I asked "what's to stop someone from just peeling up the velcro and helping themselves to your laptop sitting on the bed?" he got a serious look and said "not a damn thing".

Not that I think the places we have or will visit are rampant with crime I'm just helping keep folks honest :thumbsup:


Yeah you never know.. I read a situation where a group was camping far away from anyone. I know the spot and would have never guessed thieves would stake it out. The thieves crept into their campsite middle of the night and rolled their motorcycles down the mountain, never to be seen again.. Ouch

As far as the hard sides.. As long as the water is shed away, should work great..

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:47 pm
by wyldesyde007
I haven't been slack during my quietness ;)
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I did finally get the remainder of the cabinet doors on and trimmed out the bathroom, I do still need to make the shower pan and get it plumbed.

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:52 pm
by wyldesyde007
Here's a shot of the back gate before I start adding the room.
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And this little bugger is what has been causing me a lot of grief :x if I just wasn't so concerned with keeping those lift cables (my wife wouldn't be able to fold it out on her own) I'd have gotten rid of them.
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Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:30 pm
by aggie79
Could you retrofit your ramp hinge with ramp springs and eliminate the need for the overhead spring?

https://www.etrailer.com/Enclosed-Trail ... gItzPD_BwE


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Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:44 pm
by wyldesyde007
[quote="aggie79"]Could you retrofit your ramp hinge with ramp springs and eliminate the need for the overhead spring?

https://www.etrailer.com/Enclosed-Trail ... gItzPD_BwE


I don't believe so aggie79, the type of hinge on my ramp is a weld on bullet style i.e. no bar to place that spring around.

Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:05 pm
by wyldesyde007
After a quick work related trip to New York and helping my youngest make a project for instructables you can check it out here https://www.instructables.com/id/SEGA-H ... ecreation/
I'm finally back on the build! For those of you who have been patiently waiting...

The fold out room build!!

Here's a shot sans room.Image

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Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:16 pm
by wyldesyde007
I've been working hard this Saturday and Sunday because we are booked to be camping labor day weekend! So you may or may not see some furious building depending on whether I have time to post

Ok. To start I'm building the roof first as all other measurements are predicated off it.

It consists of
1x4 white pine framing
3/16 exterior plywood for the outer skin
3/4 thick reflective foam board insulation
1/16 thick plastic skin for the underside.

You can see in these shots I'm doweling the joints together, it might be overkill but I figure this is going to be flexed a lot with the raising and lowering and what the heck, it couldn't hurt.ImageImageImageImage

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Re: Finally underway with our 7X14 V-nose conversion

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:22 pm
by wyldesyde007
Here are some shots of the skin going on, the insulation and fiberglassing the seam between the sheets.ImageImage

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