HALLMARK 6X12 CONVERSION

[flboy]

Tommy. Do the filling outside in the driveway.. don't blow up the garage. :-)

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[flboy]

Howdy All;

The use of the scale will be the best test for fullness. 80% of rated capacity is what the pros
do when filling your regular tanks and bottles. So, 12.8 oz. should be a full bottle. Add that to
the empty weight and Bobs yer uncle ...

hank

Good point. I do have a small scale. Going to do that.

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[Tommy B]

Hank I don't have a scale unless the digital one in the bathroom would work but its for uh...a little bit heavier things.
I Will buy one more full tank from wally world and weigh it right off if I can use the bathroom scale. I need at least two anyway. I will report my findings.

Don thanks I will not buy the 4 way. A long handle one perhaps. I do have a small pair of needle nose like vice grips but that guy took 10 minutes and even he got tired holding the valve out and stopped prematurely. I may fabricate one from a metal rod maybe? We will figure it out.

Looks like I will be in Ocala the same time you are riding Devils Creek. John has a friend coming into town and they want to camp and ATV. I'm sure May will be fine, as will be April too!

So much camping to do....and so little time to do it!

[onehoser]

i made my first attempt today to fill a 1lb bottle, seemed to work well except that i'm getting a small amount of leakage from the shrader valve. i tried reseating it but it still see a tiny bubble every 5 seconds or so. the standard valve stem tool is too small so i ordered a larger one off of ebay, hopefully it will be the correct size.

[flboy]

Tommy.. have a small scale if you want to use it for refilling. I'll just use it to check, but if I understand the process correct, having the valve at 10oclock or 2oclock should ensure 80% full when it starts spitting LP. Having it at 12 oclock would overfill.

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[Tommy B]

Hey onehoser, was it a newer bottle or an old one? Just curios.

I was going to have my bottle setting up right by using the hose adapter but it sounds like it does need to be on its side at 10 or 2 oclock, right?

That's How I will do it to be safe. I will look for a long handle Schrader valve remover also.

Anybody else Have a tip or info?
Thanks.

[onehoser]

Hey onehoser, was it a newer bottle or an old one? Just curios.

I was going to have my bottle setting up right by using the hose adapter but it sounds like it does need to be on its side at 10 or 2 oclock, right?

That's How I will do it to be safe. I will look for a long handle Schrader valve remover also.

Anybody else Have a tip or info?
Thanks.

the bottle is about 5 years old

[Tommy B]

You know if I could figure out were to squeeze this in, my C.T, it would be perfect.

Norcold 1 Door Refrigerator (3-Way AC/LP/DC, Right Hand Door) N260.3R 2.4 cu. ft.

• Adjustable, removable door bins Amps: 1.4 @ 120V AC Ship Wt 53 lbs. Cut Out Size: 21" H x 19-3/8" W x 24" D

This would be a huge deal. If not for the shower area it would go there. I would like it Eye level but would take what I could get if it would fit.

Are these good units? Three ways?
I saw portable ones. 12 volt dc but pricey and not LP gas.

[Tommy B]

I may have it! With a few modifications. An extended shelve towards the drain pipe. May have to reroute the fill/vent tube some.

The only reason I did not consider this is the stove. Does the bottom basin of the stove top get too hot? Its at least hopeful but it still may not fit. Cant wait to measure it!

Filling coolers with ice and having to make ice runs is a real pain

[Tommy B]

I just read they need to be vented. Darn

Maybe a YETI cooler instead!

[Padilen]

Maybe you can use it without venting if you don't use propane.


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[Tommy B]

Hey Padilen,
Well, I was now thinking of letting the gas go ,, and er just going 12 volt.

There are a lot of these. Said a marine battery would run it for 30 hours before you had to recharge. Maybe too small but there are plenty to choose from.

Anybody use something like this?

[McDave]

Hey Tommy,
I have a Norcold unit. I really like it. Model # DE-251E It is 12v and 120v only, no lp. However, there are advantages and disadvantages to each type. This 2-way AC/DC frig. uses a compressor and Freon, like your standard home unit or air cond.
3-way reefers work through the "absorption" system, which uses boiling ammonia vapors to absorb and remove heat.
When a 3-way is used on 12v or 120v, the voltage is sent to heaters to boil the ammonia. Also, 3-ways ALWAYS need 12v available to open the LP solenoid valve. You will also notice there is no "freezer" area in that unit. 3-ways MUST be vented to the outside.
My 2-way unit has a 40 watt compressor or to put it another way 3.3 amps at 12v or 0.33 amps at 120v when running. No outside vent required. She runs for 1/10 or 1min on, 10min off. So, at 12v consumption = 3.3a per hr /10 or .33amps per hr consumed. At 120v, .33a per hr/10= .033 amps consumed. At .33a, (12v) that is 8amp hrs/24hr day. A 100 amp deep cycle will power this unit for 6 days before reaching 50% discharge. It also has a freezer and makes ice, keeps ice cream and other frozen goods frozen.
You will notice the amperage difference at 120v. 3-way = 1.4a.... 2-way = .33a.... That's a 4 to 1 difference. This is due to the fact that the most inefficient way to produce heat (required to boil ammonia) is via electricity. 2-way Compressors are pumps, heat pumps that pump the heat outside the fridg. Also, 3-way cannot use lp when in transit.
I got this unit off E-bay for 170.00 shipped and it was brand new, taken out of a boat. I'm only giving you these numbers as a reference. It won't be long before an engineer pipes in to discount this info, but then again, engineer's fly paper airplanes. Pilots, ... well you know the rest...

McDave

[flboy]

Tommy, the LP would need venting and etc. Given what room you have, I'd look at a 12vdc compressor type portable fridge. Charge the battery once a day with Generator or a 100w solar panel and you are good, plus while driving, you can run off the alternator with isolation relay.

This does not need mounting either. A lot of vandwellers and etc. use them and like them. There are other brands and etc, but this gives you and idea.


Dometic CFX-50US Portable Electric Cooler Refrigerator/Freezer - 46 Liters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ENA4ZE4/re ... OybBB4XV6W

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[flboy]

Just saw other posts.. the portable cooler type may be what you need. You were already going there. :-)

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