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5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:32 pm
by MountainBound
I've had my eye out for a smoking deal on a toy hauler for some time now, but never could find something that satisfied both my minimum criteria and my budget. Inspired by several of the ct conversions here, I turned my attention to my neglected 5x8 ct sitting out beside the barn. For the last few years it has simply been a weatherproof place to store all of my camping gear, which would get packed in the bed of the truck for outings. Time to breathe new life into this little jewel!

I'm hoping to use this for camping, hauling my radio control planes/cars to local events, and still be able to fold and/or remove interior additions to allow the trailer to still serve as a cargo trailer.

It didn't take long to realize shoehorning all of my ideas into the 5x8 footprint was like fitting 10 pounds of sh... I mean potatoes in a 5 pound sack. Sleeping quarters would have to be outside the trailer. I love to tent camp, but it's often difficult to find smooth level ground to set up in the places we frequent. I stumbled across a Conqueror expedition trailer, and the seed was planted to build a folding roof rack to carry excess cargo and double as a sleeping platform. Several days later after learning my way around Google Sketchup, I came up with this:
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I sent the design off to a friend and fabricator who was looking for a winter project to teach his son how to weld. For the cost of materials and a couple hundred bucks, we'll see how it turns out.

While waiting for the roof rack, I turned my attention back to the trailer. Electrical was the first order of business. I converted the trailer plug to 7 round to match my tow vehicle, then added a tongue box to house a few batteries, air compressor, small inverter and a shore power connector. All running lights were converted to led bulbs, and led reverse lights were added. Fender clearance lights were added to meet current DOT regulations. Interior lighting and a 7" stereo/dvd player were also wired in. 1" foam insulation was added to the ceiling and sidewalls. Enough of me jabbering, here's some progress pics:
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A roof mounted vent wouldn't work with the roof rack, so the next best location was up high on the driver's side wall. The standard 13" vent seemed large for the small trailer so I opted for a 9" model. I couldn't find a power vent option for it, so I made one out of 4 clear pc power supply fans. They move plenty of air and still let light pass.
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I found a linoleum remnant at a local flooring outlet that I thought was appropriate for the build. This is held in place with carpet tape for now, we'll see how it holds up. The walls were covered in 1/8" white masonite. More progress pics:
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The shiny new walls made the wood doors look like crap, so I thought I would skin them in the same masonite material. During disassembly, my heart sank! This is what I found:
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Simply reskinning the door interior turned into building all new doors. The old doors were hollow to save weight, but the new doors are solid to better support the stove and sink. New rear door blanks glued and clamped, then installed:
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I still need to rebuild the side door, but I've had my fill of doors for now. Next order of business was the 'fridge. I found an 80qt Edgestar at openboxdirect.com, who deals in damaged freight and customer returns. This was a gamble, as reviews included success stories of units with minor scratches to irreparable damage. For less than half the price of new, I pulled the trigger, got lucky and received an operational unit with a few dings easily straightened with a soft mallet. The stove and sink will hang off the rear doors, and I wanted the 'fridge to cantilever out past the rear doors to make more room inside to work/hang out. Also, the 'fridge mounting system would either have to be removable or fold out of the way when in 'cargo trailer' mode. Here's what I came up with using 3/4" black pipe, tees, ells and floor flanges:
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All threaded connections will be backwelded except for the three pivot points.

That's it for now, still have a long way to go but thought I'd share my progress to date and get some constructive criticism from the group!

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:56 am
by pappaw
Looking Good! :thumbsup:

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:51 pm
by dustboy
Wow, that interior is looking super clean. Can't wait to see how the rooftop tent situation works out.

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:20 pm
by MountainBound
Thanks guys! I'm thinking about reducing the lengths of the led strips on the ceiling or adding a dimmer if it's still overly bright with everything installed. The white interior is a tad too sterile for my taste, hopefully that feeling will change once the shelving and workbench is installed.

I did a test fit of the folding chairs, ez-up, etc. in their travel position along with the wife's porta-potty (her one mandatory camping accessory) and my beanbag chair. It's bulky, but hardly weighs anything.
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If the roof rack works out, much of the stuff currently strapped to the front wall will be stored/transported up on the rack to recover some much needed space inside. 5x8 just isn't much room to play with. If there is ever a 'ctc, rev 2' in my future, I'm thinking at least 6x12. Then again, all I would do with that extra space is pack in more crap! LOL

I'm pretty excited about the rack and rtt, the success or failure of whole build is riding on it working out. Fingers crossed! :worship:

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:40 pm
by roadinspector
Hope it works out for you!

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:16 pm
by adamhusband
Wow that is different. Sleep on top!? It could also serve as an awning as well. I'd love to see more pics of your door construction if you have it. I will probably build my own door as well. Looks good on the interior though. Nice and clean.

Adam

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35 pm
by MountainBound
Hmmm, built in awning, I hadn't really thought about it like that! I've been going back and forth on whether to use expanded metal or aluminum diamond plate to cover the rack, the plate would definitely provide more protection from the weather.

I did not take many pics of the rear door rebuild, but will be sure to when I rebuild the front door.

The more time I spend in the trailer, the more 'sterile' the interior feels to me. I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate some color and/or texture to make the interior feel less bland.

Thanks for the feedback!

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 pm
by Gadget Man
Mountain bound

Is that grey thing your porta-potty or some type of sink?
Tell me more.

Gadget Man

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:27 pm
by MountainBound
Gadget Man wrote:Mountain bound

Is that grey thing your porta-potty or some type of sink?
Tell me more.

Gadget Man


Hey Gadget Man, it's a Coleman portable toilet, found here: http://www.coleman.com/product/large-portable-flush-toilet/2000009351?contextCategory=6100#.UW335TfsVug

I'm still weighing my options on a sink. I picked up a small stainless double bowl sink at a local reuse-it center, but I think it's a tad big for this build. A smaller plastic sink would be a better fit, something like this: http://www.tractorsupply.com//ProductDisplay?cm_vc=-10005&urlRequestType=Base&productId=106958&catalogId=10051&categoryId=&errorViewName=ProductDisplayErrorView&urlLangId=&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10151?cm_vc=-10005

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:45 am
by Gadget Man
Mountain Bound

I goy lucky and found a stainless bar sink for $25.00, otherwise they can be over double that.
I've seen somewhere that Guys have bought a big stainless mixing bowl from a home store tomuse as a sink and drilled a hole in it to accept a drain.
Just an idea....

Gadget Man :beer:

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:26 pm
by kkayv
Hey,
Cool and original design ideas! Where did you get the checked vinyl flooring? Seems like a simple enough thing to find but, can't find anywhere! I would like to put it on my ramp. :D

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:29 pm
by Gadget Man
Kkayv

You may want to reconsider putting vinyl flooring on your ramp.
I'm sure others will agree with me, I'm just probably the first to see this because I got nothing else to do today since we are getting 8 inches of snow today. :(
The vinyl will be very slippery.
Check out my thread, there are pictures of my ramp. i did it up with Deck and Porch paint with sand mixed in. it looks great, wears like iron and is very grippy for walking on or loading the bikes.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Gadget Man :beer:

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:59 am
by kkayv
Thx. I am sure you are right. I don't wanna slip and fall. Which is why I bought the trailer in the first place! I fell loading the dirt bike up the ramp to truck bed. It sucked!

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:57 am
by MountainBound
It's been a while since I have updated this thread, so here's a few pics of my progress:
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I'm pretty happy with how the rack turned out. I'm still working on a few details like water storage and solar.

Re: 5x8 shorty, multipurpose build...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:40 am
by cornfused
That turned out great, and it looks like it's still nice and compact for transport! Where are you planning on adding solar? Flip up side panels?