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Electric Heat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:41 pm
by Duwammer
I have a 14x7 V nosed RNR aluminum trailer that bought used.

It came with the inside and ceiling finished.

My question is this.

Until I get it insulated, is it going to make any difference weather I heat it with a Mr Buddy propane heater or with a electric heater as to the amount of moisture it will get on the inside.

I currently have a Honda EUI 1000 that I can use for the lights at deer camp.

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Honda EUI2000 so that I can heat with electric rather than the Mr. Buddy.

Any thoughts on this.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:32 pm
by Shadow Catcher
You might be ahead going with an Espar diesel heater or Preopex propane of a conventional rv heater.

Electric Heat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:49 pm
by abqlloyd
Propane heaters will emit more moisture than electric. Well, electric emits zero, actually.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:51 pm
by Rainier70
Using any unvented propane heater will produce a lot of moisture. Water is a byproduct of the combustion of propane.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:26 pm
by MtnDon
[quote="Duwammer"

Until I get it insulated, is it going to make any difference weather I heat it with a Mr Buddy propane heater or with a electric heater as to the amount of moisture it will get on the inside.
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As was mentioned, propane produces H2O when it is burned.

I assume there is plywood on the interior, installed over the wall ribs. If it was really cold you might see some frost on the plywood. Possibly some liquid condensation. The plywood can also absorb some of the airborne moisture. If moisture laden air gets behind the plywood it would most certainly condense and maybe freeze if it was cold enough outside. You won't see that. If it was really cold and humid you may end up with liquid water between the inside and outside walls. You probably want to avoid producing any H2O inside with a fuel burning heater. It can be bad enough with a couple people simply breathing all night.

Speaking of breathing all night... I have a super sized dislike of non vented fuel burning heaters. The danger being the production of CO, Carbon Monoxide. Perhaps you are well aware of the dangers; perhaps not. So, in brief, our red blood cells prefer to pick up CO from the air we breath over picking up O2, oxygen. Any amount of CO is bad for us. The blood cells do not give up the CO once the CO has been absorbed. The blood cells hold onto that CO until they die. Lifespan of a RBC is about 100 to 120 days. Cells are dieing and being replaced all the time. So when we breath in a dose of CO some of the cells holding CO will be dieing off tomorrow while others will circulate around the bloodstream for a hundred or so days, without being able to contribute anything worthwhile, like carrying Oxygen. In a worst case scenario there can be so much CO tied to the RBC that even breathing pure oxygen can not save your life.

I got rid of all my unvented fuel burning heaters a long time ago.

We do use a Honda EU20001 at times to power an electric heater. Those times see the generator as far away and downwind from the trailer as I can get it with the two 50 foot cords I carry. Reason; gasoline engines can produce CO too. A CO detector / alarm is good but once it goes off you have already been breathing some CO. Probably not a lot unless you just walk into a room / space with a very high concentration present already.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:41 pm
by Jiffypop207
A direct burning heater like a Mr. Buddy will produce like .8 gallons of water for every gallon of LP burned. That's a lot.

Adam

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:11 pm
by Duwammer
Thanks guys.

It's a done deal, got the new Honda EUI2000 yesterday. Gonna start shopping for a electric heater next and sell the EUI1000 to help offset the cost.

Hunting season opened today here in Michigan. I don't get too excited for a couple of more weeks so I got some time to get things squared away.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:19 pm
by Jiffypop207
Add this little guy in your list to compare. Impressive heat for its size. Love mine! Frequently had to turn it down. http://www.broan.com/products/filter/po ... 00f88718c6

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:13 pm
by jwhite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0d950LXyw
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Generator ... 2c792cb7bd[/url]

do yourself a favor and get one of these worth every penny, I wouldn't run my Honda 2000 without one

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:42 pm
by warnmar10
Duwammer wrote:Thanks guys.

It's a done deal, got the new Honda EUI2000 yesterday. Gonna start shopping for a electric heater next and sell the EUI1000 to help offset the cost.

Hunting season opened today here in Michigan. I don't get too excited for a couple of more weeks so I got some time to get things squared away.
My EU2000i HATES 1500 watt electric heaters. It does fine with the coffee maker ~750 watts. It runs the hell out of my air conditioner. But if I want electric heat I have to run the companion generator in parallel. The single will do it but it runs wide open and sounds like it will fly apart at any moment. For heat I use my Buddy heater and crack windows to vent the gasses and moisture.

Electric Heat

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:43 am
by GerryS
My yamaha EF2400 will run my space heater just fine :) -- but it's probably at its limit....the trick is, don't run the space heaters on high.....you probably don't need that much heat anyway....I used a 400 watt heater and kept my camp-inn quite comfortable and right at freezing temperatures....with the added bonus, the 400 watt heater is about 1/4 the size of the more traditional ceramic heaters.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:53 pm
by Duwammer
jwhite wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0d950LXyw
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Generator ... 2c792cb7bd[/url]

do yourself a favor and get one of these worth every penny, I wouldn't run my Honda 2000 without one


Yup, picked up one of those for last hunting season. Then I went to South Dakota hunting and didn't use it.

Maybe this year after Missouri hunting I'll have a few days left to hunt around here to use it.

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:56 pm
by Duwammer
warnmar10 wrote:
Duwammer wrote:Thanks guys.

It's a done deal, got the new Honda EUI2000 yesterday. Gonna start shopping for a electric heater next and sell the EUI1000 to help offset the cost.

Hunting season opened today here in Michigan. I don't get too excited for a couple of more weeks so I got some time to get things squared away.
My EU2000i HATES 1500 watt electric heaters. It does fine with the coffee maker ~750 watts. It runs the hell out of my air conditioner. But if I want electric heat I have to run the companion generator in parallel. The single will do it but it runs wide open and sounds like it will fly apart at any moment. For heat I use my Buddy heater and crack windows to vent the gasses and moisture.


Well, that's not exactly what I wanted to hear......

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:59 pm
by Duwammer
Jiffypop207 wrote:Add this little guy in your list to compare. Impressive heat for its size. Love mine! Frequently had to turn it down. http://www.broan.com/products/filter/po ... 00f88718c6



Checked it out on the internet. Looks like Home Depot has them as a internet only item.

Currently out of stock. Called them today not available until 10/24

Re: Electric Heat

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:28 pm
by warnmar10
Duwammer wrote:Well, that's not exactly what I wanted to hear......
I suppose I could have said it runs it just fine but at its limit... Don't misunderstand, I absolutely love my Honda generators but I don't run anything I care about at the limits. That's just me.

If you can throttle your electric heat to a medium or low setting it will do it fine. I highly recommend the oil filled radiators set on med or low. Many of them have a 1,000 watt and a 500 watt element which combine to make a high setting of 1,500. Try it, you'll like it.