Anyone else noticed this???

Lanterns, stoves, etc... anything old!

Postby PresTx82 » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:58 pm

WarPony wrote:I won't pay a King's ransom for something just because you saw it go for big money on TV.

I saw a couple of 200's on C-List today with no price. The seller said, in effect, "Go price these on Ebay and then shoot me what you'll pay for them."

What a douche!!!!!!

Jeff


An example of that was when I picked up an old 413G stove (great garage sale price) two weeks ago, I asked the guy if he he had any other Coleman items lying around for sale. He pulls out a 22o lantern in a mummy case and said I'll take $50.00 for this. I told him it was too high. He wouldn't negotiate and said that "this item" he was saving for a collector because on "eBay" they go that high. I didn't tell him I collected them. I told him good luck and took my 413G home. I'm not sure why he sold the 413G cheap. I took it apart and cleaned it. Runs pretty good except I broke the valve knob off.

You guys got me thinking that I need to start hitting the flea market in this town. I have't done so in a few years. I wonder what relic awaits my discovery. I think the biggest thrill is to actually stumble upon these Coleman products when you're not expecting it.

I know where I nice nickel plated lantern sits in an antique shop right now and I refuse to buy it for the $65.00 the owner wants for it. I'll find my own somewhere else...!
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Postby rainjer » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:44 pm

Cowboy - This might answer you question about eBay fees.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html

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Postby happy_camper » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:28 am

slowcowboy wrote:happy camper. I reallly really really should not give you the time of day but you did throw the glove down in my face. heres a beatiful answer to that glove you trowed down for the 2 time in 2 days.

ebay is very simaler to online farm auctions. they have the same trends on the buying and the same amount of bussness. Nebraska farmers spending 30,000 dollars for a over priced grain truck 20 years old is not diffrent that japannese on ebay paying 65 to 70 for a coleman lantern.

LOL. Lets see, on January 12th, 2011, bigiron.com had 387 auctions; in 2009, the latest figures available from eBay, the 90 million global eBay users total worth of goods sold on eBay was $60 billion -- $2,000 every second. So until those Japanese collectors buy 2,000,000 grain trucks @ $30,000 each this year, the two sites are NOTHING alike!

slowcowboy wrote:big iron is a lot diffrent than broke farmers. agriculture in the united states that raise your food you buy in the grocery stores is a multi- billlon dollars industry and right now in the recessson is the only thing makeing money and is have no problem with the recesson.

And as those food (and energy) prices continue to rise, they drain even more disposable income from consumer's pocketbooks. Careful what you wish for, I think it's called inflation. As important as agriculture is (I like to eat too), it accounts for less than 1.5% of the United States GDP.

slowcowboy wrote:the illsuration photo of compareing big iron to ebay is I have noticed since christamas on the 2 week apart online farm auctions a dramatic increase in what people are paying to get something that like ebay is not worth that kinda of money. Maybee though with big iron its the fact the corn farmers in the mid west had like the beef industy a record setting prices they got for the crop.

I don't know I just was comparing the same trend as I see in ebay to coleman stuff that HAS since christmas taken a major leap in price. maybee this is just the dramatic increase in the price of desil or gasoline that is driving shipping and freight cost up. who knows.

The very nature of "worth" is subjective. To you, something may not be "worth that kind of money"; to someone else it is indispensible, and they're willing to pay the price (see below).

slowcowboy wrote:I still trade on ebay and still like the site. I still trade on big iron. I just have made enough deals for my pocket book this year that I would rather wait on big iron till septimber when things get cheaper due to crops and end of season. Ebay is a lot harder to predict. but I see trends on it too.

give some time more high gas prices economy and the colemans might cheapen up on ebay in the future. I been ebay since 04 and am very well familer with it. I do a lot of trading on it.

Gee, I hope you're correct in all your assumptions. If not, you'll look back at those $65 and $70 Coleman lanterns the Japanese collectors are buying now as a real steal.

Finally, I want to make it clear I'm not throwing a glove, a gauntlet or gooseberries at you or your face. Relax....this is big campfire with wide and varied opinions....take a breath....look at the other side of the coin.
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Postby Wolffarmer » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:58 am

happy_camper wrote:And as those food (and energy) prices continue to rise, they drain even more disposable income from consumer's pocketbooks. Careful what you wish for, I think it's called inflation. As important as agriculture is (I like to eat too), it accounts for less than 1.5% of the United States GDP


Just remember that very very little of what you/me/we pay for food in the market actually goes to the person that grew/raised it. Very little of the past few years food increase went to the producer, in many cases the commodity prices did not raise by the same percentage as the shelf price. A few commodities did spike but have since fallen way down.

I was going to say more but won't step into that discussion here.

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Postby doug hodder » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:30 am

Hey guys....welcome to the world of the "global economy"! For me...the big thing is the price in cotton, since I own a fabric store. May not be important to many...but we (US) had a great crop in 2010...Pakistan, China and India didn't...guess where they came to buy up raw goods? If you think cotton isn't a big deal, get a clue, while I"m only a fabric store, cotton is way important to any countries economy! It'll get shipped 1/2 way around the world processed and then marketed back to you in more expensive socks, underwear, clothing, among a ton of other uses.

Think I'm goofin' on ya?...google the prices on cotton...it's higher than during the Civil War with adjusting for inflation. Too bad we can't process/weave it ourselves anymore....buckle up everyone...China ETAL are going to eat our lunch if we don't wake up. In the mean time....look for bales of cotton on E-bay....just don't get it shipped priority....

Sorry....just a portend to the future...kinda like gas...I'll go away now. Doug
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Postby happy_camper » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:11 am

Wolffarmer wrote:Just remember that very very little of what you/me/we pay for food in the market actually goes to the person that grew/raised it. Very little of the past few years food increase went to the producer, in many cases the commodity prices did not raise by the same percentage as the shelf price. A few commodities did spike but have since fallen way down.
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I believe the same is true of any commodity; a gold miner comes to mind. Changing a commodity into finished goods is the reason most of the world has a job (notwithstanding geopolitical issues), right Doug?
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Postby doug hodder » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:58 am

I'd agree with that, however if it weren't for some of the import restrictions in place both with us and others things might be a whole lot different. I've got no ill will for those that are buying, I'd do the same thing....just surprised that the US let it's textile industry go by the wayside much like it's iron/steel production.
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