Turbo 413 Cookmaster roadtested!!

[doug hodder]

So I decided that I needed to clean the garage today, sorta got started. However, I've been thinking about Scotts frankenstove/oven burner. Great job by the way!!! Didn't take too much for me to get sidetracked from cleaning and came up with this. I still need to build the box for it all. I have a couple of 413's that are junk for parts. Both cases are beat/cut up, but both have crimped ends.

I took it apart and sectioned 7" out of the manifold. Rewelded the manifold back together, which was tough as it was galvanized and thin wall tube. At any rate, something else I discovered is that 2 burner 413's have the aux burner sitting just a bit higher than the main burner, maybe to help with gas flow. By the time I got the manifold aligned to weld, I discovered this. I'm thinking if I pull the restricter plate out of the aux burner, It will run hotter since it's the same size as the main on the newer 413's.

I decided that since the 2nd burner isn't as hot, closer is better and left it. It fired right up and the advantage is that you don't have to use a match to light the aux burner, just open a valve. This should really heat up a pan of water and get a high base waffle iron up to temp in a hurry. I'm thinking it will really be a real cooker under the oven as well.

Now gotta go finish the garage, or maybe play with the case....Doug

[starleen2]

Hey doug - that looks super! (now I know whats next on the build list) someone made a suggestion to use an old fount for the tank - just screw in the valve assembly) and that will center evething up a bit

[doug hodder]

Great idea!!!....and you might be able to fit the tank in the stove for storage. I'm thinking, of removing the large manifold support pan and only use a piece of angle, so that maybe I can stick the fuel tank in the front for storage...Dunno yet, still working on the prototype. I'd probably have to have at least a 220 font, since this is going to be a gas hog if I run both burners. I'd end up with a Popeye right arm from pumping! I don't think I can fit it all in the case.

I've also entertained the thought of sectioning a fuel tank and welding it up. Or building my own tank. Just gut the pump/filler neck and valve fitting out of an existing one and stick it into a piece of fairly thin wall tubing with flat ends. I think I also have a beater fuel tank that I can play with to at least see if I can weld it up. It's junk...has a pin hole in a bad spot that can't be fixed. Doug

[Kevin A]

Doug, do you have an extra round tank? It might be easier to section.

[Zollinger]

Man I can't believe the talented people that belong to this forum.

[doug hodder]

Doug, do you have an extra round tank? It might be easier to section.

Yeah...a flat ended round one would section easily....I don't have one and if I did, probably wouldn't cut it...they are too hard to get. I still need one for a 425.

I did make up the box for it, blew off the rest of the garage cleaning...now that it's well on it's way to completion, I wish I had a better box to start with. Oh well, I guess this one is my education on it all. The front is really hammered, looks like someone stepped on it. Got it fairly straight, but it's still a mess.

I crimped the edge like Scott had mentioned...but then took the torch to the paint and scorched it off. I'll probably do a couple of tack welds on it, then some 3M 5200 sealant on the edge prior to painting to hide a lot. I'll have to make a lid for it, and hopefully will be able to use the wind wings. I can fit the latch and the handle on the front. Probably can use the old lid hinges as well.

No place to store the tank in it though.... Doug

[starleen2]

Here's an idea to use the original tank. To move the valve to the center, why not weld another fiting in the center and just plug the the hole from the orgininal fitting? No need to section a tank

[doug hodder]

Scott...as it ends up...with the extra burner added width, I can get by with the original tank, it's a '79, an older one wouldn't work as the tabs are wider, IE my 413C, I cut up a G model, it has a shorter/fatter tank. My overall box width is 14". The tab holes are just inside on the left hand side, so it's fully supported.

The aux burner wing nut does stick out a bit, but I can cut it down and re-weld the shaft on it if I want.

I'm thinking...you could also just install the tank and center the burner, just have the gennie kicked at an angle not a true 90. It would work on a single burner, not a double without some extra welding. I don't think it's all that critical as to how much of the end is stuck in the manifold...you could always just pull the burner assy. forward a bit. That way you could install a normal tank into a short box.

I'm sure someone will be spooked about my modifications...Oh well....I like to push an envelope. Doug

[starleen2]

Now to the next project: what can I do with this:

[doug hodder]

DEEP FAT FRYER!!!!! Cool! Now just figger out what all the knobs are for.... Doug

[hotrod]

I thought of something but it just aint right...

[High Desert]

Doug, nice custom job! Very inspiring, gives a person lots of ideas.


Scott, you need to find the radiant heater that tank belongs in!

[Dean in Eureka, CA]

Justin will have to talk real fast next time he Waffle Dogs with that sucker...

[doug hodder]

Whoooeeee...ya'll ain't kiddin'.....In my best Hank Hill voice...."I have given up propane and propane accessories. White Gas is my new mistress" Doug

[doug hodder]

I took a torch tonight and cut down the grill, also cut a new piece of rod and bent a hard 90 on it for the grill hinge. I used a cotter pin to loop around the new grill piece for hinging, (top left)...lots less work than trying to cut slots for the original tab...hey...it's a prototype.

After the crimp method that Scott had mentioned on the box, I used the mig welder to do a couple of quick "tacks" to secure it all in place in case my crimps didn't hold, then used 3M 5200 sealer to smooth out all the funky edges. Shot it in Rustoleum Dark Hunter Green paint.

Next step...strip the hinges, wings off the original lid and cook up a new one for it. Also, need to install the handle and latch.

This is a fun project for anyone with a junk 413 or any 2 burner stove laying around...thing is...if it's a newer one, unless it's a real cream puff...why not? Great use of a junk stove. I figure, it's a good lesson...now just gotta find a good 413 newer box that is scorched, but not bent up to do one out of. Doug