Model 1 Coleman now finished!!!! whew....

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Model 1 Coleman now finished!!!! whew....

Postby doug hodder » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:26 pm

I picked up this model 1 stove back in December. Here's where I am on it now. Had some others to do in the meantime.

It's an early stove in the manufacturing run, because it has the air breather valve on the tank end, so that makes it in the '23 group. At this point, none of their stuff had any patent numbers on it as it was all new turf.

The generator on the older (like pre'30) Colemans, don't have a spring in them, but instead a series of 7 steel rods that go around the generator needle. This stove had a problem in that the key to operate the generator was just spinning. After about 4 hours in the carb cleaner and some picking...I got the gennie apart, it was packed full of crud. The needle had separated from the threaded portion of the needle body. I was able to get it back into position and then crimped it using the key and the taper in the cleaned generator.

Some elbow grease and soaking in vinegar brought the brass back to life.

The fuel tank on it has a number of dents. They can't be reached from the inside to push them out as there is a inner sleeve on the filler. I had to do some bondo...still in process.

The rest of the stove, especially the box, was bead blasted. For the plate that the grates rest on, since it gets hot, I'm planning on using engine enamel, good to 500F. Spray it on, sand some off then spray more. That's the only way I see to fill the rust pits in it and make it temp. resistant. Primer will fill it....but won't hold up to the heat. The box can be primed as it doesn't get all that hot. Doug



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Postby teardrop_focus » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:55 pm

Jeeze Louise! Those brass burners are gorgeous!

Can't wait to see THIS one finished... and, one day, Doug, we'd like to see a group photo of your current batch of cast iron, brass-era stoves please!


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Postby DragonFire » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:15 pm

THAT is nice!!!

When you are done it will look just like it did new. Old stuff was always built with design esthetics in mind. That is going to be a beautiful stove!
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Postby rainjer » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:35 pm

Doug - Look at VHT paints.

http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/caliperpaint/

They have a 800 degree gloss black.

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Postby doug hodder » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:48 pm

Thanks Jeremy....I wonder what the gloss is like? I'd still need to do something to fill the pits in the top. They say it's available at Napa...I'll go check them out and find out if they've got them. That would be the answer on the oven body. I've done the 500F stuff on them before, but once up to temp, it's about at it's limit....First time fire up with the oven...they want to smoke a bit...after that, it's a go. Doug
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Postby 46Kit » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:28 pm

Doug,

How about silver solder to full those pits? Melting point is +840ºF so should stand up to heat generated by use. Just need to be careful to not introduce additional distortion from the heat of soldering...

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Postby rainjer » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:29 pm

It lists a primer on the lower left side of the page. I think is is white.

Prime SP118 High Temp Primer

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Re: Model 1 Coleman

Postby halfdome, Danny » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:32 pm

doug hodder wrote:
The fuel tank on it has a number of dents. They can't be reached from the inside to push them out as there is a inner sleeve on the filler. I had to do some bondo...still in process.

Doug, have you considered putting water in the tank and putting it in the freezer to push out the dents? I've heard some do that to motorcycle gas tanks. :D Danny
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Postby doug hodder » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:42 pm

The cans at Napa say 250F on them, pretty sure I read them right, but then I was looking at a bunch of stuff at the time. I talked with the guy about it. They pulled out the POS materials for the paints and nothing read 900F in it. I was kinda in a hurry as it was dumping snow and I was in the Toyota and it was having a hard time.

Danny...I don't want to run the risk of pushing an end on the tank, splitting the seam, (full length) or screwing up any of the pick ups in the tank. Once this one is screwed up....I'm outta luck. Some of the dents aren't just a dent, they stretched the material into a crease.

46Kit...I've got like maybe 60 sq. inches to take care of. I'd think the heat would be just too much on that thin of material. Besides...I gotta go with what I know how to do. Doug
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Postby kzhorse » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:13 pm

I havent tried yet but I was thinking along the lines of paintless dent removal where they glue a tab and use a slide hammer.I just dont know it hot glue would be string enough.

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Postby halfdome, Danny » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:47 pm

kzhorse wrote:I havent tried yet but I was thinking along the lines of paintless dent removal where they glue a tab and use a slide hammer.I just dont know it hot glue would be string enough.

Scott

I have the "Ding King "kit and it works fine on newer cars (thinner sheet metal) but couldn't pull a small crease on my 55 Chevy.
Doug's tank is so small I don't think it would pull the dent out. :D Danny
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Postby campmaster-k » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:04 pm

Great work Doug. Keep the pictures rolling. :applause:
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Postby Lazybones » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:25 pm

Looking good Doug!
Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it kind? Ask yourself these simple questions every time you are in doubt about any action.
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Postby Dave A » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:50 am

Hey Doug :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :applause: :applause:
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Postby Dean in Eureka, CA » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:43 am

GONNA BE A 'BEAUT!!! :thumbsup:
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