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Gird strap concerns

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:21 am
by Larry Drake
The Teal Camper 2 inch "gird strap" cinches the panels together to create a water tight seal and a strong structure. It is not the only thing that holds the panels together, but it is an important element. The panels are also held together with interlocking fingers, a channel at the bottom and a bar at the top.

The ratchet handle can be locked to prevent accidental loosening or tampering.

As far as concerns about someone cutting the strap, it is cinched tight against the panels and it would be difficult to get a knife blade under the strap. Cutting a 2 inch cargo strap is not an easy task. Even with a sharp knife and a loose strap it takes a lot of hacking and sawing. Of course a person with a sharp knife could also slash your tires, break a window, scratch your car or jimmy your lock. :twisted:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:45 am
by S. Heisley
Larry Drake wrote:
The ratchet handle can be locked to prevent accidental loosening or tampering.

As far as concerns about someone cutting the strap, it is cinched tight against the panels and it would be difficult to get a knife blade under the strap. Cutting a 2 inch cargo strap is not an easy task. Even with a sharp knife and a loose strap it takes a lot of hacking and sawing. Of course a person with a sharp knife could also slash your tires, break a window, scratch your car or jimmy your lock.


Well stated. :yes:

Re: Gird strap concerns

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:36 pm
by StPatron
Larry Drake wrote:As far as concerns about someone cutting the strap, it is cinched tight against the panels and it would be difficult to get a knife blade under the strap. Cutting a 2 inch cargo strap is not an easy task. Even with a sharp knife and a loose strap it takes a lot of hacking and sawing. Of course a person with a sharp knife could also slash your tires, break a window, scratch your car or jimmy your lock. :twisted:


A knife blade would NOT need to be underneath the strap to slice it. It's been my experience that a tight strap can be more easily cut than a loose one.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:00 pm
by jagular7
Since you visit this forum and actually communicate, that is great!!!, I would guess you looked into an interlock of a quarter-turn sprung load mechanism? This would eliminate the exterior limiting mechanism (length of strap), the capability to add/remove sections to gain/lengthen the overall length of the camper, jst 2 quick thoughts.

Modularity (such a word?) - is this camper capable to be setup in a 8' truck bed?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:05 am
by deepmud
His site has a rendering of it in a pickup.

I think it's kind of dumb to get all into whether or not morons will be vandalizing this thing more than any other camper. It seems like a funny picture if the camper would fall apart without the strap, but it won't, since the strap is there to make the seals tight, not for the structure, according to the fact that it is assembled with a screwdriver.

Perhaps if someone takes one of these on an expedition it would be more of a concern, but really, you take your chances with the morons attacking your camp regardless of your construction. A slash with a box knife would certainly damage the strap, require replacement, etc. I bet it wouldn't be the only thing vandalized in a camp if someone was turned loosed with mayhem on their mind.

I am more interested in how the camper will hold up to the vibrations of a bumpy road, whether there will be wear points as it shifts in the bed, or is that completely handled by whatever connection there is to the flat-bed trailer. What about the seals the strap is holding tight? Will they let dust in? Will they seep in water being towed at 70mph in the rain? These are questions that will either be shown by the builder using his prototype or by some actually being bought and used. Perhaps someone needs to take that dream-trip up the Al-Can to Alaska they have always dreamed about. Take it to Dead Horse on the Haul Road maybe. That would be a hell of a test drive :D

All good questions

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:21 pm
by Larry Drake
When the weather breaks here in Colorado we will do some more serious testing. Of course the prototype is just that, a test bed. Many of the things we have learned on the prototype will be implemented in the first beta versions to be manufactured. I am sure we will find more modifications needed after the first batch hits he highways and byways. I am certainly open to suggestions and constructive input.

(Concerning the gird strap; carry a spare. It is easily replaced.)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:33 pm
by deepmud
I've gotten all I can get from CAD drawings and one pic - I'd love to see some pics of your prototype, how it looks on the trailer, what it looks like packed to go - but I understand if the prototype isn't photogenic enough to release in detail yet. Pretty much it seems like the next step is some units on the road.

It occurs to me that this kit does one thing nothing else does - it ships. I can't think of how to tow it when I get "there" but the idea appeals to me - show up,buy a trailer, hit the road. Whenever I think about traveling, the first step of 2000 miles of AlCan always eat up precious vacation time, and that just gets me to Seattle.

Unfinished pics

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:49 pm
by Larry Drake
Deep Mud,
Here are a few photos of the prototype before it was finished. Note that there are no windows installed and tie down rings are missing from the center panels. At least you can get an idea of how it looks on a 4'x8' trailer. Inside dimensions are 5' x 8.5'.

You can also view the assembly and interior videos on the website if you haven't already done so.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:11 pm
by Ageless
Having grandkids; could this modular be expanded to a longer length? I realize the pop-up is limited as for length, but if another length segment was added just for sleeping space?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:05 pm
by deepmud
so I see it wasn't ready for your trip :( - I really do hope you found a way.

My wife likes it :D

So think the interior layout is clever. Maybe a awning would be cool - so it could be easy for outside cooking maybe.

Got pics with windows?

Have you been camping yet? :thumbsup:

Erik

Camper sizes

PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:19 pm
by Larry Drake
One of the big advantages of the modular camper is that it can be adapted to many utility trailer sizes. By adding panels, it can be made wider and/or longer. Tops will be available for 4x8, 5x8, and 5x10 trailers beds.

I am working on a pop up hard top that will be in modular form also. That way you can just add the appropriate panels when you upgrade to a larger trailer.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:32 am
by eaglesdare
i like that modular a lot. i also have a chevy hhr. need another tester for it? :D

Re: Camper sizes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:38 am
by jagular7
Larry Drake wrote:One of the big advantages of the modular camper is that it can be adapted to many utility trailer sizes. By adding panels, it can be made wider and/or longer. Tops will be available for 4x8, 5x8, and 5x10 trailers beds.

I am working on a pop up hard top that will be in modular form also. That way you can just add the appropriate panels when you upgrade to a larger trailer.


Wider?

For the soft side of the canvas top, add zippers. ie Jeep Wrangler, for the additional/removal of sections.
The top itself could have a pull and lock latch mechanism which pulls the 2 sections together for a seal, then locks to keep them from separating.

Teal Camper hits the road

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:50 pm
by Larry Drake
The Teal Camper trailers behind my little HHR like a dream. I hardly even know its there. Today I traveled some washboard gravel roads. Not a single complaint. It was stable and light. It stayed solid on the utility trailer (no loosened tie-downs). Everything was firm and secure, even after bouncing across hill and dale, ruts and bumps.
:thumbsup:
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Flatiron Reservoir Campground (low res image from phone camera)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:31 am
by eaglesdare
do you have pics of the inside? bed or kichenette/storage? room for port a potty?