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Japanese-inspired standy/foldy trailer

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:01 pm
by navigator
Based on the genius of the guys that built the folding motorhome (http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=27776), I came up with a small trailer that lifts up to have EIGHT FEET of headroom, yet closes to just 4.5 feet (body height, no suspension).

Lift up the roof, and the small front wall raises (a'la Esterel), and presto, lots of space! It would be easy to include an awning, or even a deck. This is a quick rough-up, few details worked out, but it seems a great solution to the lack of height most "standies" are able to create.

Thoughts...?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:35 pm
by Miriam C.
:o :thumbsup: My first thought is how will you keep water out if the sides don't overlap one another on the outside?

My second is I am short. 8) :lol: It would be nice to get that last few inches to stand completely upright...

Soooooooooooooooo, when ya building it? :twisted:

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:18 am
by navigator
The sides do overlap, both open and closed. The roof overhangs the lift-up wall, so that's sealed. The only troublesome area is the usual one, the hinge. For shorter folks, there should be plenty of headroom all around. Note that the door is on the side of the trailer. I have drawn one with a curved roof, too, will post later.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:26 pm
by grant whipp
navigator wrote:... The only troublesome area is the usual one, the hinge ...


An extruded "hurricane"-type galley lid hinge should work ... but I'd have to see a detail of the proposed hinge area to be sure. Though, I'd definitely want to put some kind of rain shield/cap on the leading end to keep out water, there.

Interesting design/concept ... I'll be keeping an eye on this one ... too ... :thumbsup: ...!

CHEERS!

Grant

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:13 am
by GregB
Though it isn't attached yet, I've chosen a TILA hinge 2000 which should be water tight in both directions. Got to be concerned with the ends, but it seems like a possible option, here.

http://www.eurotechnics.us/html_pages/tila02.htm

GB

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:36 am
by Miriam C.
I have put a circle in the photo below. My concern is that without some type of flashing the water will find it's way in. Might not be a big deal though.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:12 pm
by RAYVILLIAN
MY only thought is where's the wheels? At first look it seems they would be in the middle of the side door. Other than that it looks doable.

Gary

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:52 pm
by navigator
Greg, that is an impressive-looking hinge! Is it pricey?

Miriam, where you circled would be a where the roof edge closes to the body, which is easily taken care of by putting a bevel on the mating edges, to drain the water away.

Gary, The doorway was just stuck in, not measured. The latest rendition has the frame and axle included, so the door is moved forward.

The roof hinge is not a continuous hinge, but is pivoted at two points (each end), which causes the roof to shift out a bit as it opens, so it overlaps the top of the lower side wall. The lower portions of the wall that stick out are not essential, they are there for aesthetics when closed. Still working out a few details, will post a current model when I am happy with it.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:29 pm
by GregB
It is pretty pricey. I can't remember how much, exactly, but it was expensive.

GB

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:55 pm
by Alan Wood
navigator wrote:Greg, that is an impressive-looking hinge! Is it pricey?

Miriam, where you circled would be a where the roof edge closes to the body, which is easily taken care of by putting a bevel on the mating edges, to drain the water away.

Gary, The doorway was just stuck in, not measured. The latest rendition has the frame and axle included, so the door is moved forward.

The roof hinge is not a continuous hinge, but is pivoted at two points (each end), which causes the roof to shift out a bit as it opens, so it overlaps the top of the lower side wall. The lower portions of the wall that stick out are not essential, they are there for aesthetics when closed. Still working out a few details, will post a current model when I am happy with it.


Perhaps you could attach that section to the upper side/roof with a hinge to become the porch awning? :thinking:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:42 pm
by navigator
Still needs a lot of details worked out, but getting better. Now the rear end slides out, to provide more open floor space, like for a potty/shower. The top of the slide-out is covered by the roof when closed, so is sealed. The body is narrow and there are no wheel wells, so the bed assembly fits inside. The lower side walls are 4' high. The door is 68" tall, standard for pick-up campers and pop-ups. I see the side door (for the closed position) being a swing-down platform, like Coleman uses, with a set-in-place door for the open position.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:10 pm
by Miriam C.
:thumbsup: This is such a good idea! Have you seen dploch's slide out.
http://tnttt.com/viewto ... e&start=45

We will really enjoy watching this build. Seeing it in person would be a treat! Just be careful of the places where water can hold. :thumbsup: ;)