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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby aggie79 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:09 pm

Great information! Thank you, Michael.
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Re: Wall Two complete...

Postby Atomic77 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:26 pm

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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby bdosborn » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:31 pm

Nice! They turned out great!

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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby OP827 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:27 pm

:applause: that is a nice milestone and very good workmanship. Did you need to add solvent to West System epoxy to roll it on with foam roller like that?
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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby Atomic77 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:54 pm

No, OP... I didn't. I kept the resin in the house at about 72 degrees until we were ready for it. Actually, thinning the epoxy isn't recommended and makes the mix unpredictable. It also lengthens the cure time. As long as the resin is warm it will flow out just fine. Thanks for the complement!
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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby Atomic77 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:57 pm

bdosborn wrote:Nice! They turned out great!

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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby Atomic77 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:44 am

It was a pretty chill weekend around the shop... difficult to keep the temps up above 50 degrees and not a lot going on. But I did manage to accomplish a few things...

As I continue to read and study about Filon, Luan and the different glues that bind them all together... The theme that continues to prevail is the instance of failure where the bonding agents, i.e. contact cement, epoxy, TB3 or whatever... is rarely at fault. It is most always an issue of the moisture getting in somewhere, (under trim, mouldings, screw holes, window/door seals, etc.) and then penetrating the edge of the Luan/Plywood. Over time the glue that bonds the layers of the Luan/Plywood together starts to deteriorate, break down, rot and the layers of wood (ply) rot right along with it. As I've said before, it's the layers of the Luan/Plywood separating from "itself." Not the bonded material separating from "it." This is how delamination occurs. So I'm thinking that regardless of how much epoxy is used to seal everything up, or together or whatever... It's the vulnerable edges that ultimately cause the issues. I've been told it's over kill, unnecessary, or "the RV manufactures don't even do that!" But I have now spent a considerable amount of time carefully going over the walls making sure that every tiny bit of wood is laminated under a nice layer of epoxy. I understand that the manufacturers don't do this added step... and that's fine. The difference between myself and them, or at least one of the differences, is they need to continue to build and sell caravans. I don't. Mine just needs to last for all eternity, forever and ever, Amen. Joking. Well sort of. I've discovered that most caravans do well up to the point of the expiration of warranty... just like most anything produced today... But I would like to build something that can be passed along for future generations of enjoyment. So... I'll add a couple pictures of the process. Which is very simple, yet effective and I believe will make the difference in the longevity of the product. Call it overkill. I call it insurance. At the very least, when and if something fails whether it be an edge moulding, a seal, butyl tape, caulking, etc., by the time the failure is discovered, it can be fixed without having to repair a bunch of rot as well... Or maybe, I'm just insane.
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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby KCStudly » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:38 pm

Not insane. Prudent. No time like the present.
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Re: New Build... The Astroliner

Postby Atomic77 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:05 pm

Thanks KC.
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Update...

Postby Atomic77 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:58 pm

I've been working on the walls for the past few days. Prepping them for primer and getting them ready to install. I decided to go ahead a prime them now, because it's easier to do it on sawhorses than it is when they are vertical on the trailer. I block sanded the primer and got everything ready for assembly. I have now gone as far as I can because I've officially outgrown my garage. So we built a rack on the trailer to haul everything on, then tomorrow morning we're off to my brothers shop about an hour away to start putting it all together.
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The Astroliner now has an Inside!

Postby Atomic77 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:43 am

Well, the one hour trip to my brothers shop ended up taking three hours in white-out conditions. Not the best for towing our Hillbilly Camper Kit. But we made it there and after many hours of clean up, we finally got the walls up. The cleats on the bottoms of the walls worked out perfectly and we got them locked down with grade 8 bolts and Hysol. We glued and stapled in the bamboo ceiling and temporary spars. Now we will go back and add the permanent spars and frame in the windows and the fans. It's good to finally have an enclosure and to have an inside!

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Re: The Astroliner

Postby dales133 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:36 am

Nice work mate it's looking awsum.
Totaly agree about overkill vs the mass produced sh**!
Well worth it and I too want to build something that will out live me.
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Re: The Astroliner

Postby KCStudly » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:12 am

Great progress! The picture of you up near the roof really gives a sense of the size. :thumbsup:
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Re: The Astroliner

Postby aggie79 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:43 pm

KCStudly wrote:Great progress! The picture of you up near the roof really gives a sense of the size. :thumbsup:


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I agree with KC. Your camper looks fantastic! And it seemed to "grow" or at least, with the perspective of you in the picture, it seems much larger than I could grasp before you put the walls up.

Could you tell us a little more about your bamboo ceiling?

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Re: The Astroliner

Postby Atomic77 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:18 pm

Thank you my friends... Yes it does look large... but in person it's not really that big I don't think. I mean, once you put in a dinette, wet bath, galley, and a bedroom it gets pretty small! Ha! But we are pretty happy with it. I think it will suit our needs very well. As far as the bamboo ceiling, even though it looks really amazing, it's just bamboo (faux) paneling. We chose it because it had a light, clean look that was very mid-century modern which fits the rest of the decor plans. Also it is the only paneling we found that doesn't have the big grooves. We're pretty happy with it.
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