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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby KCStudly » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:46 pm

Looks good! :thumbsup:
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby S. Heisley » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:23 pm

You're doing good!
I like the idea of putting the utilities in a tongue box.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:23 pm

Thanks! :D

I found out my brother has a scroll saw, I had to teach him how to set it up (blade guide was all wrong and he complained about poor performance) but then it worked for trimming the ends. I ended up having to take 1/16" off the front piece, the circular saw we'd used had a very small kerf so it did not sit well with the gasket, and I split one of the side pieces while screwing it to the front face so I had to glue and will leave it clamped that overnight. I picked up the brass screws for the ceiling and round-head stainless for the latches.

I'm going to stick with the current latches, since the T-molding is trimmed, the holes drilled, etc, to fit them plus I can use keyed-alike locks for the coupler and AC door and not have another key (now I'm at 4, truck, doors, hatch/tongue box, and coupler/AC) on our camping rings.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:30 pm

So today was almost exclusively about fitting the beadboard ceiling panels. They're all ready for varnish now, I may wait until the sliding doors are ready and do them all at the same time.
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Here's the largest panel, and the most fragile with the roof vent cut-out.
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Good thing the fan has a big trim ring...
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:33 pm

So yesterday was planning all of the insulation work, it turns out I was able to get all the needed pieces from a single 4x8 sheet so I have an entire extra sheet I can return to the store. :applause:

Today was cutting all of the insulation out. Using a large square and a utility knife for cutting the panels apart was slow but very clean.
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And then inside the tear I used a drywall saw to make final adjustments and cut the various wiring/lighting holes. That was not very clean. :shock:
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Now the cabin's roof is covered in 1" of solid insulation. I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make, but I can say I tried.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby noseoil » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:02 pm

Good job using the knife instead of a circular saw. Nice to see some progress!

I met a guy this weekend who used cans of expanding foam on the top of his tear for insulation, after he put in the head liner. As you might expect, it was a little lumpy, so he used a belt sander to knock it back down & fair things up. He said it was a "bit messy" out in the yard that day. I'll bet it was, must have looked like a blizzard in the desert and that stuff must still be lurking around.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:16 am

Oh, I forgot to mention I found the source of my electrical switch problem. The switches were advertised as fitting in a 3/4" hole. Only problem? They actually measured out at 0.783", or 19.9mm and just a hair over 25/32". So I ordered a new Forstner bit advertised as 20mm/25/32" (I bet it is actually 25/32") but that should make my light switch panels much easier to produce.

I also found out I can use a pulse width modulated dimmer to dim the two reading lights, but the general lights aren't dimmable (even though they're in identical housings, I thought the only difference was 9 vs 12 LEDs). I think we'll see how the reading lights work out on our first trip before thinking about adding dimmers. If we decide we want them, I'll just pull the forward-most ceiling panels, cut out a chunk of insulation and put a single-gang low voltage box but I'll put an extra few inches of wire in that area for each run so I can add the dimmer easily. I'll have to do some more research on the "undimmable" LEDs...

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The previous owner for my house decided to fill a hole where an old toilet paper dispenser had been mounted with expanding foam and a bit of leftover wallpaper. Thanks buddy, now there's a 3/4" high bulge in the drywall between those studs, and the wallpaper patch was from the wrong section of the pattern. :lol:
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby noseoil » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:10 am

I bought a 20mm bit & it was too small for the rocker switches I got from amazon (the ones with the blue LEDs). Found a "stepped bit" at harbor freight yesterday which worked better (13/16" is what was correct). Not sure if this will work for you or not. In my build thread with the cover plates. tim
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:12 am

I might get to add a new bit to my collection if that is the case.
Or we'll see if I can just trim the holes with a knife to fit.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby KCStudly » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:53 pm

Link shows cutout dimensions for the switches I am using, which appear to be the same.

The hole diameter called out is 20.2 mm (0.795 inch, while the dimension "across flats" for thinner (less than 2 mm) panels is 19.0 mm.

I used a 3/4 inch punch in a hydraulic iron worker which gave a very snug fit (...preferred!), and used a small fine file to make the anti-rotation notch (2.2 mm wide x 1 mm deep).

Could it be the anti-rotation tab that is holding you up?

If you're interested, there are some more details about how I filed the notches in one of my build entries here.

Edit: A little more about my switch plates here.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:29 pm

KCStudly,
Your switches are bigger than mine by a little bit, I was cutting the anti-rotation notch using a jeweler's file so it was definitely the body of the switches that were binding on the holes.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:53 pm

So I started with putting the filler on the tongue box lid. I really should've done this earlier in the week because the front lip has a significant amount of filler on it and will take forever to dry. I also put the first coat of paint on the AC trim, the corner and edged the galley. Now that I'm waiting for both of those things to dry, I've been puttering around working on small stuff.

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I attached the galley latch panels to the hatch but forgot to take a picture before I took it apart. I also taped the side of the trailer for the paint design, it will get painted on Sunday after SWMBO gives her final approval.

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The drill bit arrived, it turned out to be a fully 20mm metric bit so the switches drop right in once I trim the anti-rotation notch. Unfortunately the smallest plastic cover plates (so they don't extend over my trim rings) I could find at Home Depot are really junky and the first panel broke into several pieces when I went to drill the second hole. :thinking:
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby rdraider » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:17 am

Trailer is coming along great!

I have a question. Why are you using epoxy and cloth on the edges? I know it helps strengthen the edges, but i'm wondering if this is how you are sealing the exposed edges, or if there is another weather proofing need.

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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby Kharn » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:21 am

Basically as extra protection for the edges. The manufacturer says 2 coats of 100% acrylic primer and two coats of 100% acrylic paint are sufficient to protect the MDO, but I wanted to ensure the corners can stand up to a bit more abuse, like a tree limb scraping it as I back into a site at night, getting hit by an Easy-Up, etc. With the fiberglass, there's a good margin for error before the wood is compromised.

Is it excessive and an unneeded expense? Probably, but without it I'd worry about every nick and scratch on the edges instead of just touching up the paint when I have a chance. It also added a lot to the price of the build, I think it has been around $400 for the supplies and tools.
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Re: 4-Day Weekender - Paint

Postby rdraider » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:52 pm

Thanks! Just wondering about the mdo. I read the apa guide and there was good information there. Price is a concern for me, but when my local supplier carries the mdo for roughly the same price as marine grade and for not much more than birch, I can't see why i wouldn't use it.

My intention is to stay away from the epoxies as much as possible.

Keep up the good work! :beer:
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