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Postby S. Heisley » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:46 pm

After reading what Prem wrote, I figured the waxed paper wouldn’t work for my fiberglass application. Also, I am using Doc Rot’s Lay-up & Laminate epoxy which might not mix well with acetone. However, the Lay-up & Laminate is a soap and water clean-up (if washed off while wet) yet it appears to be as good as any epoxy resin I’ve ever seen used, once it is dry.

So, rather than test first, I went at it with thought. This second outcome was a lot better than the first. Here is what I did:

1. I lightly sanded the previous application; then, vacuumed it to remove loose particles.
2. I cut the sheeting of loose fiberglass particles into pieces that would fit my individual sections, and carefully set them aside.
3. I brushed the surface with a layer of the Lay-up & Laminate and lightly pressed the cut sheeting in place, using a moistened paper towel. Because the paper towel was moistened, it did not stick or react with the loose particles or the epoxy resin.
4. Next, I wiped a spatula with a moist paper towel and began making chopping motions (sort of like mincing sliced onions) to break up air bubbles and further attach the fiberglass to the surface. Using only the end of the spatula in a chopping motion, the fiberglass particles stayed in place and did not attach themselves to the spatula.
5. After 4 hours of drying time, I applied another coating of the Lay-up & Laminate over top. Since it was a small area and I was being a bit lazy, I used a wet sponge applicator. Near the end, the sponge started to break up but the pieces are small and will be covered with paint…no big deal.

Below is a picture of the outcome, still wet from the last application of epoxy.

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While the old, sanded errors are still evident in the white spots, most of them are now evened out and, when it is sanded again and then painted, I think it will look a lot better than it would have before.
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Postby Prem » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:31 am

:thumbsup: Looks clean and nice Sharon!
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Postby Rlowell » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:10 am

Prem wrote::thumbsup: Looks clean and nice Sharon!

You all are way over my head!! That work looks great. I have never used fiberglass before. I do not have the space or experience to do that.
I have learned a lot from this group of great people and am ready to put the roof on my "Weekender" and will seal and use premium house paint with the lame excuse that if it will last for ...you know.
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Postby pete42 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:02 am

Sharon I built an all fiberglass airplane we carved everything from foam using a hot wire and templates.
when it came time to apply the fiberglass cloth we mixed the resin and used small 1 inch brushes and "stippled" the resin into the foam removing the excess with a plastic squggie
the resin does not add strength only weight which on an airplane the lighter the better.
stippling is nothing more than holding the brush like you did the spatula and in an up and down motion dab the resin onto the cloth.
I often wonder why other than the all cardboard one noone has built an all fiberglass tear.
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Postby S. Heisley » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:18 pm

Pete42 wrote:

…I built an all fiberglass airplane we carved everything from foam using a hot wire and templates.
when it came time to apply the fiberglass cloth we mixed the resin and used small 1 inch brushes and "stippled" the resin into the foam removing the excess with a plastic squggie
the resin does not add strength only weight which on an airplane the lighter the better.
stippling is nothing more than holding the brush like you did the spatula and in an up and down motion dab the resin onto the cloth.
I often wonder why other than the all cardboard one no one has built an all fiberglass tear.
ol' pete

Pete,

I hope you don’t mind. I thought what you had to say was important so I’m quoting you in the weight-saving techniques thread, here:

http://tnttt.com/viewto ... 6&start=60

That way, your idea will live on and may help/be seen by many, instead of getting buried in one person's build thread. Thanks for your comments. :thumbsup:
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Postby S. Heisley » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:35 pm

Thanks, thanks, and more thanks! …Plus a word of advice.

Taking a tip from RMCLARKE (http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=40341), I used a hand planer to shave off the edge on the fiberglass tape. It worked so-o-o much faster and better than sanding that as soon as I tried it, I started grinning! So, Thanks, Richard! :thumbsup:
I managed to add a few gouges but that hardly mattered amongst all the other blemishes. :o

Once I finished taking the edge off the tape, I started filling and sanding. It wasn’t long before I regretted every time that I had said, :roll: [size=75]“That’s okay. I can fill and/or sand that out.â€
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Postby bdosborn » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:35 pm

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Hey Sharon! Looking good!!! :lol: :lol:

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Postby S. Heisley » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:54 pm

HaHa! Bruce, you should see me with my painting respirator on! That's a real trip!

For Halloween, I'm going to use the above goggles with my respirator, a Tyvek painting suit, and rubber gloves and then duct tape white plastic bags over my shoes. Nobody will recognize me!
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Postby pete42 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:11 pm

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As was heard many times in The Lone Ranger show "who was that mask woman" well they said man but what the heck still good quote.

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Postby S. Heisley » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:31 pm

Ah, Kimosabe!

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Everything is epoxied now and I think :NC I've got everything filled. Tomorrow, it's back to sanding. With any luck, I should be able to start the base coating this weekend!
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Postby down under tech » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:19 pm

Hi Sharon: I bet you are glad you are about to coat your trailer with some color soon. It seems like it takes for ever to do the details that make each teardrop unique. Keep plugging along and it will get done. :thumbsup:
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Postby S. Heisley » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:21 pm

Thanks for the encouragement, Johnny. :)

Color? It's gonna be pretty blah at first...white base coat and vanilla top coat. I bought that back when I still had the tan truck. I'll trick it out with a little design or something later.
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:53 am

One of the tricks I have used is to buy one of the surplus gas masks (Israeli) and additional filters. It is good for taking most everything out. Fiberglass is not as bad as asbestos but is not good to breath and if you look at the MSDS sheet for most resins...

Sharon a request, a couple of middle distance shots so I can see how it all fits together. The natural inclination is to shoot detail because that is what you are working on.
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Postby aggie79 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:28 am

Thanks for passing along the tips Sharon.

I know you'll really enjoy the PC sander. I've had mine for many years and it keeps on humming along. If you have a shop vac, you may want to get an adapter (or a hose from PC) to connect the sander to the shop vac. I bought the hose about a year ago and it almost completely eliminates any dust while sanding.
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Postby S. Heisley » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:27 pm

Shadow Catcher wrote:

…a request, a couple of middle distance shots so I can see how it all fits together.

I’m not certain what you mean/are looking for, Shadow Catcher, but I’ll attempt to give you some idea of how it will become a whole.

Below is a picture of the folding sides and folding front, together:

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(Sorry, they look kind mangy right now. They were the first pieces I built & I used the cheap orange box stuff on them. Those dark wood parts will be painted to match the ceiling, later.)

All of the above pieces attach to the docking lip via piano hinges and then fold inward for storage or upward to hold up the lifted roof. A picture of the docking lip from before attachment to the stationary roof is shown below.

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You’ll note that the front board on the lip is not as tall as the others. That’s because the folding front attaches to that short board via a hinge and folds in first and then the folding sides fold in on their hinges and lay on top of the folded front wall.

In the above docking lip picture, you can see some rather large holes drilled into the back board, in the foreground. Fence bolts go through those holes and attach to another board that the lifting roof’s hinge is attached to. That is so the lifting roof can be easily removed for maintenance.

Does that answer your questions or did I totally misinterpret what you were looking for?
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