Ok here we go...PMF!

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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:07 pm

Cheers
I made 1 small mistake though. ... in my haste to get the roof sheet on i forgot to run my fan wiring
All is not lost though as i have still got to fit the final sheet behind the fan hole so i can get access up to the back of it and i think ill route a grove in the hatch side frame to get the wire to the right position.
Havnt made a mistake for quite a while so it was on the cards
Ive also left the roof to wall edge square but ive got a 3mm round over bit coming on a slow boat from Hong Kong and ill see how it gos on the edge of the glued canvas.
Im hoping it will work if the fibers are glued solid
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby KCStudly » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:03 pm

I would do a test on routing glued canvas before making a commitment. You may have to cut thru the canvas with a razor knife in order to avoid fraying. Might be okay, just saying, better to know before things go bad on the real deal.
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:37 pm

Yea i hear you.
Its a verry small round ove and i wasnt goin the full deth of it anyway.
Infact i might just put an arras on it with the sander,the round over bit was for the hatch notch
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:26 am

Well i think i might have made a 100 dollar mistake today.
Went to melborne to look at a hatch hinge and they were closing 5 mins after i got there but it looked pretty much what i expected.
He said they cant take back cash sales but i still maybe able to under consumer law.
Anyway its a continuous gear hinge... hurricane hinges are only avaliable in one state or overseas....
The problem is it has these locator clips and i can see daylight through them so ill need to investigate further tomorrow.
Got home in the dark.
This is what its like.
http://www.crlaurence.com.au/crlapps/sh ... elID=24492.
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby mikeschn » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:42 am

Dale,

If the hinge opens up far enough for you I think it's usable. I can't see how it would leak, but if it did you could always put EPDM over it, or one of those foil faced roof tapes.

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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:46 am

Cheers mike,ill take some pics in daylight to show what im concerned about.
They are usualy 200 bucks.
Its an awsum looking hinge as you only see about half an inch square section on top.

Most of the gear hinges i could locate were 300 plus.
The use them in hospitals alot because thier smoke stop and anti ligature
I had planned on a surface mount one but it was 70 bucks more
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:55 am

Ok took some pics,bit dodgey with the flash but i tried
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:58 am

Sorry about the multiple posts but i can only do 1 pic per post resizing on my phone
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby noseoil » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:12 am

Dale, not sure I'm understanding the problem you're seeing with this hinge. It looks like it opens up far enough to work (180 degrees is more than enough). If it's long enough, it should work OK as far as I can see. It can either sit on top of the cabin or sit inside the framework.

You would need it to be an inch or so longer than the trailer itself is wide. Is it long enough to stick out on both sides? You would need to be careful about trimming the front flange (cabin side) so it sits inside the frame opening & mates properly with the spar. The back (hatch) length flange would also need to be trimmed with care, so it fits against the hatch spar at the top, with enough clearance to swing open & not rub against the sides. Other than that, it looks to be plenty stout & should last forever in your application.

It also looks like it might not be able to be taken apart, but with a couple of mates to help hold it in place when the screws go in, that should take care of it when you actually mount the hinge to the cabin. As long as the edges are sealed properly when you put in the fasteners, it should work well enough. Probably best to pre-finish the wood all around that location with a few coats of urethane or good spar varnish & then let it dry properly. If all the pilot holes are drilled first, the finish will be absorbed into the wood and help seal it up from the water.

It would be easier to apply the hinge to the hatch first, with enough fasteners & some type of adhesive or a good marine sealant to bed it in place. Let this set up & be weather-tight so there are no gaps or openings for water to enter the adjacent wood. Once this is done, the same thing could be done on the cabin side flange. The biggest problem would be holding it in place to get the fasteners aligned & started at first. That's where some help holding it in place & pilot holes would be in order. Again, some type of a sealant under the flange would be a must, but I think this would make for a good seal when all is said & done. Just figure that sooner or later, some water may find it's way into the galley area, finish the wood & cabinets accordingly, so it can't get into the wood when it does.

I have a hurricane hinge for my build, but I'm not thinking it will ever be completely water-proof. The top shelf will get another coat of urethane when I'm done, because water will find its way into the build sooner or later. The whole idea for me is to give it nothing to do but evaporate once it's in there and sloshing around.
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:17 am

Thanks mate.
Ill take some better pics of the issue i forsee i still think i can work around it with a rubber gasket or something and maybe a small angle either side of the hinge center
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:26 am

Offending hinge bit!
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby Sheddie » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:51 pm

As Tim said it looks fine.
But what are the little black things in your last lot of photos? :thinking:
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Re: Ok here we go...PMF!

Postby dales133 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:11 pm

Sheddie wrote:As Tim said it looks fine.
But what are the little black things in your last lot of photos? :thinking:

The grey things?
The black thi gs my fingers shaddow.
Ill take some more this morning in better light an have a better look myself
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