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Postby del » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:55 pm

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Try as I may could not figure out to set the hatch, without warping the skin, in any direction. So I hung it off three straps. I was able to fiberglass the seam, when it dries I can turn it over and sand it, followed by resin, sanding, primer, and paint.
Next I added resin where the bottom hatch seal goes.
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After dinner finish working on the door hinge.

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Postby Miriam C. » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:02 pm

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Del if you prime it now you won't have to climb in with the hatch in the way. :thumbsup: Unless you have very long arms-------then you can leave it till last. ;)
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Postby del » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:29 pm

Miriam C. wrote::applause: :thumbsup:

Del if you prime it now you won't have to climb in with the hatch in the way. :thumbsup: Unless you have very long arms-------then you can leave it till last. ;)
Next year if I glue some kind of counter top (no I have not decided what type of counter top) to this, will the glue stick to the primer?

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Postby bve » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:34 pm

del wrote:Try as I may could not figure out to set the hatch, without warping the skin, in any direction. So I hung it off three straps.


Man I don't envy you on this build, roughly how much does hatch weigh?

Is it just me or is there something 'fishy' looking about this view :lol:

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Postby Miriam C. » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:38 pm

del wrote:
Miriam C. wrote::applause: :thumbsup:

Del if you prime it now you won't have to climb in with the hatch in the way. :thumbsup: Unless you have very long arms-------then you can leave it till last. ;)
Next year if I glue some kind of counter top (no I have not decided what type of counter top) to this, will the glue stick to the primer?

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Not as well as it could. Especially if you are using contact cement. :roll:
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Postby del » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:07 pm

bve wrote:
del wrote:Try as I may could not figure out to set the hatch, without warping the skin, in any direction. So I hung it off three straps.


Man I don't envy you on this build, roughly how much does hatch weigh?

Is it just me or is there something 'fishy' looking about this view :lol:

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Postby del » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:09 pm

Miriam C. wrote:
del wrote:
Miriam C. wrote::applause: :thumbsup:

Del if you prime it now you won't have to climb in with the hatch in the way. :thumbsup: Unless you have very long arms-------then you can leave it till last. ;)
Next year if I glue some kind of counter top (no I have not decided what type of counter top) to this, will the glue stick to the primer?

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Not as well as it could. Especially if you are using contact cement. :roll:
That is what I afraid of.

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Postby Micro469 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:24 pm

del wrote:
Miriam C. wrote:
del wrote:
Miriam C. wrote::applause: :thumbsup:

Del if you prime it now you won't have to climb in with the hatch in the way. :thumbsup: Unless you have very long arms-------then you can leave it till last. ;)
Next year if I glue some kind of counter top (no I have not decided what type of counter top) to this, will the glue stick to the primer?

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Not as well as it could. Especially if you are using contact cement. :roll:
That is what I afraid of.

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Dell, if you want to protect it, give it a quick coat of epoxy. Then, when you decide what you want to use to cover it, just use epoxy as the adhesive......no fillers....
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Postby Podunkfla » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:16 pm

Well... I have just had a different experience with sealing plywood that is going to be laminated with Formica or other laminates? I've been building restaurant counters and fixtures for years... and I always seal the wood. I have never had any problem with delamination of the surface, even with bathroom counters that get wet a lot. If the contact cement is applied properly and the laminate rolled down good, it will stick very well. I generally use sprayed shellac as a sealer because it dries very fast, soaks in the wood and is a good water resistant barrier. I have also used oil based sealers and epoxy on occasion, like in marine applications... Still no problem with gluing the laminate or having it come loose. I do still use the stinky old type of contact glue that is high VOC though. I just don't like the water based stuff... or trust it. JMHO ;)
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Postby Juneaudave » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:04 am

Podunkfla wrote:Well... I have just had a different experience with sealing plywood that is going to be laminated with Formica or other laminates? I've been building restaurant counters and fixtures for years... and I always seal the wood. I have never had any problem with delamination of the surface, even with bathroom counters that get wet a lot. If the contact cement is applied properly and the laminate rolled down good, it will stick very well. I generally use sprayed shellac as a sealer because it dries very fast, soaks in the wood and is a good water resistant barrier. I have also used oil based sealers and epoxy on occasion, like in marine applications... Still no problem with gluing the laminate or having it come loose. I do still use the stinky old type of contact glue that is high VOC though. I just don't like the water based stuff... or trust it. JMHO ;)


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Postby Podunkfla » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:35 am

Juneaudave wrote:
Podunkfla wrote:Well... I have just had a different experience with sealing plywood that is going to be laminated with Formica or other laminates? I've been building restaurant counters and fixtures for years... and I always seal the wood. I have never had any problem with delamination of the surface, even with bathroom counters that get wet a lot. If the contact cement is applied properly and the laminate rolled down good, it will stick very well. I generally use sprayed shellac as a sealer because it dries very fast, soaks in the wood and is a good water resistant barrier. I have also used oil based sealers and epoxy on occasion, like in marine applications... Still no problem with gluing the laminate or having it come loose. I do still use the stinky old type of contact glue that is high VOC though. I just don't like the water based stuff... or trust it. JMHO ;)


Good tip Brick...I'm always amazed at how members step up and volunteer their experience and knowledge!!!

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I forgot to mention I have also begun to use the same vinyl sealer that I use under the Conversion Varnish topcoat I use a lot. It makes a great sealer for most any wood that may see moisture occasionally. It's a Sherwin-Williams product, and it ain't cheap... But, it's good. Shellac will do for most things though. I mostly buy quality dewaxed shellac flakes and mix up my own as I need it. But, you could use the Zinser shellac from the big-box stores too. Zinser does make a dewaxed shellac; it's called "Seal Coat." Their Bullseye shellacs do contain wax. The spray can shellacs they make are also dewaxed.

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Postby del » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:24 am

Podunkfla wrote:Well... I have just had a different experience with sealing plywood that is going to be laminated with Formica or other laminates? I've been building restaurant counters and fixtures for years... and I always seal the wood. I have never had any problem with delamination of the surface, even with bathroom counters that get wet a lot. If the contact cement is applied properly and the laminate rolled down good, it will stick very well. I generally use sprayed shellac as a sealer because it dries very fast, soaks in the wood and is a good water resistant barrier. I have also used oil based sealers and epoxy on occasion, like in marine applications... Still no problem with gluing the laminate or having it come loose. I do still use the stinky old type of contact glue that is high VOC though. I just don't like the water based stuff... or trust it. JMHO ;)
This is a solution that makes sense to me. Thanks everyone for the ideas.

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Postby del » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:27 am

Today I made the washers for the body mount bolts, and filled in some imperfections with bondo.
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And oh yea I bolted the hinge to the body, and clamped the door on.
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Postby Podunkfla » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:54 am

Looks like the Binford 4000 works great! Congratulations... :thumbsup: :applause: :lol:
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Postby toypusher » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:47 am

Man, that's a great job on the hinge!
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