Where or When Jr. --Paint & New Tow Vehicle--update 5/17/15

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Postby starleen2 » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:12 pm

If it is not TOO late - you can remove the walls and apply the skins to the interior and exterior while the panel is flat. Sure makes gluing and attaching the panels a bit easier.
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Postby myoung » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:16 pm

starleen2 wrote:If it is not TOO late - you can remove the walls and apply the skins to the interior and exterior while the panel is flat. Sure makes gluing and attaching the panels a bit easier.


Yes, I'm going to build from the inside out. The photos show the frame held in place by clamps and rope. I haven't fastened anything permanently to the floor or to any other wall yet. Later.
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Postby myoung » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:03 pm

How's the tumbled paver look for a unique floor treatment? Thought so.

Actually this is the first skin applied to the frame of the pop-top looking from the underside. This was the simplest one to do first because the pop-top is exactly 4 x 8, just like the 5mm Luan skin.

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All sides are vertical except the upper third of the front, which is angled back 22 degrees. This is a terrible picture of the corner detail on the side frame. The front pieces fit inside the two side walls.

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Here's a better picture of the top corner detail. That little gap is of no material consequence, pun intended.

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I guess that this will be the last posting of build pictures for at least two weeks. Friday, we leave for our annual Florida vacation. Then, school resumes, which should put a big dent in my construction activity.

Pretty good progress, I'd say. Started the chassis on Dec 23rd and today is Jan 3rd. So, that is about 12 days of construction. Time for a break to heal my dry and cut hands and to give the muscles I didn't know I had a rest too. Chilling now.
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Postby S. Heisley » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:01 pm

Pretty good progress, I'd say.


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Postby YuGun » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:09 pm

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Postby steve smoot » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:24 am

Mike, you are doing a great job there.

I don't like how the solid fold up panels look on my trailer, and I recall you are using a soft side for the top section. What material are you using, and how are you going to attach it?

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Postby myoung » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:44 am

steve smoot wrote:Mike, you are doing a great job there.

I don't like how the solid fold up panels look on my trailer, and I recall you are using a soft side for the top section. What material are you using, and how are you going to attach it?

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Steve,

I decided against the solid panels for several reasons. First, my experience with the VW Westfalia and its fabric panels was positive. They had no wear and presented no problems over nearly a 20-year span of ownership.

Second, the solid panels occupy the space under the pop-up top that could add more interior height (3 to 5 inches) and offer less slouching and none for my wife. The fabric sides would simply roll up along the edges and could be held in place with just a few simple straps.

Third, the fabric will probably be rip stop nylon or something similar that is commonly used in tents. Strong, easy to fabricate, and lightweight. I'll stitch some screens into the sides or front.

Fourth, the attachment will be by means of simple snaps on the outer lip of the perimeter of the roof opening and on the inner lip of the pop-top. The gap between the lips only has to be about a half inch by I'll probably go for an inch. If I make the gap 4 or 5 inches, the rolled up fabric sides could fit neatly between the lips just like in the Westfalia. We'll see whether taking up that extra few inches in roof opening is worth the tradeoff.

Fifth, I will install an linear actuator to raise the front electronically either at the push of a button or possibly remotely for maximum coolness. I'm just waiting until I finish assembling the pop-top section to see whether I will have to go with the slower 150-pound model of the actuator or the much faster 40-pound model. Each has an 18-inch travel that is more than enough for the height I want.
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Postby len19070 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:30 am

myoung wrote:Fifth, I will install an linear actuator to raise the front electronically either at the push of a button or possibly remotely for maximum coolness. I'm just waiting until I finish assembling the pop-top section to see whether I will have to go with the slower 150-pound model of the actuator or the much faster 40-pound model. Each has an 18-inch travel that is more than enough for the height I want.


I used an RV step Mechanism for a similar application. I'm sure one would work for your application.

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The stove slide is an electric Auto antenna...actully used the antenna itself for the linkage.

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Postby myoung » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:08 am

len19070 wrote:I used an RV step Mechanism for a similar application. I'm sure one would work for your application.

http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/ ... railer.mp4

The stove slide is an electric Auto antenna...actully used the antenna itself for the linkage.

Happy Trails

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Love the video. It's magic. Way cool. It may inspire others to try these devices on TDs and TTTs. Lots of interesting possibilities, as you have shown.
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Postby steve smoot » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:06 pm

Thanks Mike. I can not wait to see how you handle the top section. It all sounds really good.

Len, I like the auto top. That is way cool. You guys sure are making it rough on the rest of us :applause:
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Postby myoung » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:19 pm

Okay. I lied. I didn't take two weeks off. Instead, I cut and glued the inner skins of the two front sections today.

Now, I'll rest.

BTW, I weighed the pop-top and skylight to see whether the 40 pound linear actuator would be sufficient. The total weight was 41 pounds, but there are still some pieces to add and some weight to consider for primer, finish paint, insulation, fiberglass tape for the edges, and another sheet of plywood for the inside surface. All that should produce a finished weight under 80 pounds, which is okay for the 40 pound actuator. Nonetheless, I'll opt for the slower, more powerful version that can push 150 pounds.
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Postby myoung » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:49 pm

Got back from a week in Florida and really missed not working on the trailer. But before resuming on Saturday, I first had to get a bit of long-overdue exercise in the form of a 29-mile bike ride with the regulars here.

Later in the afternoon, I had to begin trimming the sheathing to the frame and cutting window openings with a router. I have never used a router before but understand the rudiments of its use. Fortunately, I bought a way cool and light Ridgid R2401 trim router, which has lots of features I didn't expect to find in such a compact machine. It cuts beautifully and makes this rank amateur look like he even knows what he is doing.

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Postby Cliffmeister2000 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:30 am

Welcome back, Mike!
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Postby Hikerjohnd » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:43 am

myoung wrote:Fortunately, I bought a way cool and light Ridgid R2401 trim router, which has lots of features I didn't expect to find in such a compact machine. It cuts beautifully and makes this rank amateur look like he even knows what he is doing.

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Isnt that just a great little router?!?!?! I love mine and havent pulled out the full size one since i bought this one!

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Postby myoung » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:11 pm

Well, I thought it would be an easy task to get some epoxy resin and filler to glue the sides to each other and to the floor. Wrong.

I looked everywhere -- HD, Lowes, Ace, paint stores, and woodworking supply and lumber yards. No one carried anything except those little 8 oz two-part dispensers that are fine for small home repairs but inadequate for building a TTT.

So, I ordered epoxy, Cab-O-Sil, 6-inch fiberglass tape (for the corners of the pop-up top), and glue brushes on-line. Haven't heard when they might arrive, but I doubt that the order will be here by the weekend when I could have been assembling the box.

Oh, well. Bad planning on my part.

I did get a bracket and mounting plate for the moveable table that I will install. These items come from GoWesty, a outfit that specializes in all things for VW campers and even campers themselves. My TTT design has elements from the VW Westfalia camper so it's only fitting that I have at least one component that comes from the VW.
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