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sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:01 pm

my names brian. im building a tear drop to snow bumm in this winter. doing a generic benroy outline for my first trailer. i wanna keep it stupid light and hot. kinda nervous about forums but yall seem nice . here she is......... :D
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:03 pm

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basic insulated floor plans
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attaching 1x2 treated pine to 3/4 birch
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hot floor
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:07 pm

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floor attached to harbor freight orange utility trailer insulated with 11r 2 inch insulation board. attached with self taping bolts
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:11 pm

more action :applause:
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closer
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benroy outline
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just a couplea doods
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:16 pm

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bending 1/4 inch birch to the interior of the sno drop
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neeeds more? screws!
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two layers of insulation board
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:19 pm

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outer skin was cake. 1/4 inch sand ply
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Re: sno drop

Postby KCStudly » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:35 pm

Welcome to the forum! You are off to a great start with lots of progress and a clean looking build. :thumbsup:

Wish you had asked around a bit first (or did I just miss it?). To build "stupid light" and well insulated a foamie would have been the ideal solution for you. IMO 3/4 ply is just too damn heavy, and treated lumber isn't the best choice, either. Poplar would have been a better choice for light weight framing and many people here have some concerns about using treated lumber in such a small enclosed space (even if it is buried in the build).

Anyway, thanks for posting a bunch of pics, and keep at it. We like the pics. Don't be afraid to ask around; there is so much information and knowledge here, and most everyone is willing to help guide you to it if need be.

I'm looking forward to you future posts; keep them coming! :thumbsup:
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:55 pm

the only treated lumber i used was the spars up on the frame as i figured on frame sweat. as for a foamie im still not sure what that is. 3/4 inch birch walls i figured would make it tuff as it will be in extreme conditions bumming it up in ski resort parking lots. winds can get wild there. i remember my first year at mammoth winds hit 190mph on the mountain.
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Re: sno drop

Postby KCStudly » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:54 pm

Foamies are kind of a new thing, and in their purest sense are usually built out of thicker foam board (1-1/2 or 2 inch thk) with a minimum of wood, usually just some wood in the floor and the frame work around the doors. The outer skin is done in a traditional boat building method using glue (or paint as glue) and canvas which is then painted over; a poor mans fiberglass substitute... no exterior plywood and no aluminum skin. Insides can be canvas or bed sheets and glue, paper board glued on and painted, paper mache or thin (like 1/8 or 5 mm thin plywood).

The upsides are fast thrifty construction, potentially very light weight, good insulation value, long term rot resistance, and easily repaired.

There was one incident of a tip in high 50 plus mph wind, but that was attributed to a narrow 4 ft width, relatively high roof line (small footprint standy, IIRC), and very little cargo. (The big joke is that since foamies are so light, we need to carry 500 lbs of beer in ballast.) :lol:

For more info check the Foamie section of the forums; read the big "Thrifty" thread... if you dare (it's a monster :shock:, but was the threshold of what I like to refer to as, "the modern Foamie movement". It now comes with a thrifty thread summary index (under construction thanks to rowerwet).

Don't be confused if you decide to look at my build in progress. It is a hybrid version of a foamie with lots of extra wood on the inside (home built off road frame and suspension; 1-1/2 thk foam in the floor, walls and roof; lightweight rot resistant cedar sub-frame work; 5 mm Okoume marine ply inner skins and cabinet panels; Red Grandis hatch ribs; and 1x2 maple cabinet face frames). Foamie like on the outside; not your typical foamie on the inside; not thrifty, and, although I am spending a lot of hours working on the details, not fast building. :? A-typical, and you get to decide what the "A" stands for. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're doing fine. Please don't take my previous comments harshly. It's just that there is soooo much information here to digest that it is worth spending some time looking around.
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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:41 pm

that sounds cool. i am far from delicate tho and being 6 3 200 pounds i might fall thru something like that after too many tequilla sunrises lol. my fabulous mother/roomate took some pictures of progress me and my other roomate/dad made over the weekend. recieved my shipment from vintage tech. super stoked on the quaility and the women i spoke too was a sweethart. picked up 4 sheets of .040 aluminum over the weekend hopefully get that up by next weekend. (i know most people use . 032 on the sides but i got a good quantity discount(bicycle mechanics build ona budget)) :wine:

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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:43 pm

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Re: sno drop

Postby FARMINGDALEHC » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:45 pm

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insulated rear
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closing the rest of the trailer in from the inside
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Re: sno drop

Postby Junkboy999 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:11 am

Welcome to the forums. Looking really great so far.

Remember when you in that thing trying to keep it warm you need fresh air in it all the time. There is a thread filled with stories and examples of people waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air. Same thing happened to me at the Grand Canyon in April (26 Deg one night) . Even with the top vent crack a bit and the one window cracked a bit It was not enough air moving. I woke up a few times before it dawned on me I was running out of air. I opened the top vent about 2 inches and the window 2 inches and all better. I just grabbed my little puppy and wrapped her in a towel and placed her in my bed. We stayed warm all night. I have a heater but was at a tent camping spot with no electricity.

No it does not rally need to be air tight, just watter prof.
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Re: sno drop

Postby SLUG36 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:03 am

it looks like ya'll have a good looking project going on there. keep up the good work!
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Re: sno drop

Postby rowerwet » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:23 am

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18902 thread about off the grid heat on a budget
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