aVANger Build

...ask your questions in the appropriate forums BUT document your build here...preferably in a single thread...dates for updates, are appreciated....

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:25 pm

KCStudly wrote:So you're recirculating hot thru the cold side? Does that mean you have to run the cold water extra to get cold?


I have a cross connect at the faucet that opens to allow the hot side water to flow back to the water tank via the cold line. It's thermostatically controlled so it closes off once the water gets warm. So yeah, the cold side will be warm but hopefully not hot. We'll have to keep some cold water in the fridge.

Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton

Re: Advanger Build

Postby featherliteCT1 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:38 pm

bdosborne,

I see from your prior posts about your electrical system (which is awesome!) that you installed a Victron 30A DC/DC Smart charger for alternator charging (an Orion Tr Smart).

My understanding is that if the BMS disconnects the battery while the alternator is outputting current, then the voltage can spike so high in the alternator that the alternator can be damaged. So, to protect the alternator, an "Alternator Protection Device" can be added.

Does the Orion Tr Smart serve as such an Alternator Protection Device?

Thanks for educating me!
featherliteCT1
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1125
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:54 am
Location: Southern Indiana

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:18 pm

The Orion does an orderly shut down when my BMS disconnects it so that no damage to the alternator occurs. However, in a vehicle there will always be another battery (starter battery) connected to the alternator so there's not much chance of damage. I think it's more of an issue in a marine environment where they often switch the alternator between the house and the start batteries.
Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:04 am

Yesterday was a big day, I started up the water system! Hot and cold running water is now available. Only one leak and it was easily fixed by tightening the filter cover.
Image

The electric water heater uses 1600W and takes about 20 minutes to go from cold tap water to hot. That's about 10% of my battery capacity (400 a-hr) and will take the PV panels about an hour to replace in good sun. I left the heater on overnight and that used 13% of the battery capacity. It looks like the heater came on three times during the night after the initial heating:
Image

The water sensor also worked, I can now see the tank level in my Victron Cerbo screen. It's not that accurate yet, I need to tweak some of the sensor values once I fill the tank up all the way:
Image

I left the pump on overnight too and no leaks; Pex is great stuff. :thumbsup: I'm waiting on a fitting for the tank vent and then the system will be ready to use. Now I just need to build the kitchen and shower. :D
Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby Staryder61 » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:15 am

bdosborn wrote:Yesterday was a big day,

I left the pump on overnight too and no leaks; Pex is great stuff. :thumbsup: I'm waiting on a fitting for the tank vent and then the system will be ready to use. Now I just need to build the kitchen and shower. :D
Bruce


:thumbsup: On your system Bruce.. do you do contract work? I pay in food.. :lol:
I'm sure the kitchen and shower will be awesome.. can't wait for the updates on those..

Now, on the Pex. Just something some of us full time RV'ers learn. Pex is awesome. Though after some time, with the hot water.
Probably due to the expanding, contracting of the cold and hot water. Adding movement while driving.
A hot water leak shows up sometimes at a crimp joint.
This can ruin an evening of relaxing, whether you are in the camper or not.
Having a leak show up, or a full blow off of the joint with water pressure, if a leak is ignored..
Be sure to check and recheck those joints when traveling, and using the hot water.
Carry extra crimp rings and crimper.. couple pieces of Pex as long as the longest piece you have used in your plumbing. (IMHO)
Stay safe, David



Our CTC
6' X 12' CTC = Texas Sized Tackle Box
http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=74704
User avatar
Staryder61
Silver Donating Member
 
Posts: 827
Images: 528
Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:11 pm
Location: In one of 254 Counties in Texas
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm

I've had good luck with the trailer, its all pex and no leaks after 12 years or so. I do carry one of these and some stainless steel wire, just in case. It works great on Pex joints. I'll throw some Pex and unions in too.




https://clamptitetools.com/

Bruce
P.S. I've got a one-line diagram of the plumbing system around here somewhere if you want it. I had our chief plumbing engineer review it so you know its got to be good. :twisted:
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby tony.latham » Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:25 pm

It works great on Pex joints.


Well, damn. You just cost me $30 (on eBay). I'll throw it in my lost-tool drawer. :frightened: They're pretty slick.

We've got that same water heater under our kitchen sink. :thumbsup:

Tony
User avatar
tony.latham
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 6900
Images: 17
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:03 pm
Location: Middle of Idaho on the edge of nowhere
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:02 pm

tony.latham wrote:Well, damn. You just cost me $30 (on eBay).


It's just money, you'll make more writing books. :lol:

Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby Capebuild » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:14 pm

bdosborn wrote: I do carry one of these and some stainless steel wire,


Nice tool! "Do it right with ClampTite"...

Although I've mentioned it in previous post,I"ll say it again.... real nice layout, Bruce, with the water heater setup.
"Success can be defined as moving from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm".... Churchill

Visit my Teardrop build here: viewtopic.php?f=50&t=73779
User avatar
Capebuild
Donating Member
 
Posts: 754
Images: 129
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:50 am
Location: Massachusetts
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:29 pm

Thanks guys for the nice comments. :thumbsup:
Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby lfhoward » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:45 pm

Bruce, just catching up and am super impressed with the Victron system you put together with a hot water heater and tank sensor! That’s just cool.

8)
My off-road camper build on an M116A3 military chassis:
http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62581
Tow vehicle: 2008 Jeep Liberty with a 4 inch lift.
User avatar
lfhoward
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1370
Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:10 pm
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby bdosborn » Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:30 pm

lfhoward wrote:Bruce, just catching up and am super impressed with the Victron system you put together with a hot water heater and tank sensor!


Thanks! I just found a use for the Ruuvi wireless temperature sensor that I wasn't quite sure what to do with. I strapped it to the pressure relief valve of the water heater and insulated it with thinsulate. Now I can monitor the hot water temperature; it holds decent temperature overnight without having the heater being on.
Image

I'm not impressed with the tank sensor, it varies wildly with temperature (50% over the day). I might need to insulate the sensor or something. I guess just being able to see some kind of level is nice. I didn't add or use any water today and you can see how the level varies:
Image

But everything else has come together nicely.
Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5494
Images: 772
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby Spotman » Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:57 am

:thumbsup: I've had the original brass ClampTite tool for about 20 years now. Comes in handy. Picked it up at an RV show that many years ago. :roll:
2018 Heartland Terry Classic V21
2018 Toyota Tundra DC
User avatar
Spotman
500 Club
 
Posts: 673
Images: 241
Joined: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:16 pm
Location: Virginia Beach, VA.
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby lfhoward » Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:43 pm

Now you have me looking up RuuviTags. I could monitor interior & exterior temperature and humidity on the VRM. How cool is that?
My off-road camper build on an M116A3 military chassis:
http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62581
Tow vehicle: 2008 Jeep Liberty with a 4 inch lift.
User avatar
lfhoward
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1370
Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:10 pm
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Top

Re: Advanger Build

Postby Philip » Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:45 pm

Looks good Bruce.

:thumbsup:
Philip
Silver Donating Member
 
Posts: 498
Images: 323
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:57 am
Location: Peru,Indiana
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Build Journals

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 42 guests