Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:54 pm

Simple_Abound wrote:Very nice build. I believe a homemade door can be just as nice if not better than a factory door.


Thanks! I will do a detailed construction of the door.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:10 pm

I sprayed the satin polyurethane finish on the interior and installed the FRP on the ceiling, ($38.98 4’x 8’ sheet). The material will follow almost any bend without breaking. Strong 1/16". 19 lbs/sheet. I split the sheet at the skylight. Unless you have 2 or 3 helpers, installing a full sheet is an impossible task.
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I used the inside FRP corner trim which bends easily to follow the curve.
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I fastened the ceiling with construction adhesive and screws with finish washers. LED ceiling lights are installed.
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I’ve started to install the first layer of .5” Formular using foam board adhesive and clamps & bricks to hold it to the curve. Using my table saw, I cut kerfs in the Formular to facilitate making the sharper curves.
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Total cost to date: $1819.45 Weight: 577 lbs Tongue weight: 90 lbs
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:57 pm

Roof insulation is installed. 1 1/8" thick. (Two layers of .5" Formular) Straps were temporarily screwed to roof supports to hold the foam board while the adhesive dries. Roof spars are 1/16" below the top of the sides to allow the FRP to be flush when installed. I installed a 1/4" curved glue ridge between the spars.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:04 pm

I have installed the 1/16” FRP to the roof spars using construction adhesive and countersunk screws. (Note: you cannot staple this material! They will not penetrate.) My frame was 48” wide, so the FRP fit exactly between the ½” sides and flush with the top so the Filon will bridge the 49 1/8” camper width ─ 49” Baltic Birch sides and the 1/16” Filon skin that will be contact-cemented to the Baltic Birch.

I installed a 100ah Lithium battery and a fuse box in the galley to check my lighting circuits before covering the wiring.

Total cost to date: $2161.99 Weight: 623 lbs Tongue weight: 96 lbs (roughly 15% of total tow weight so far).

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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:20 pm

I am finishing the wiring installation in the galley to the fuse box with a battery trickle charger and 125v outlet.
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Galley construction is underway.
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Total cost to date: $2272.43 Weight: 651 lbs Tongue weight: 96 lbs
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:48 pm

Galley is nearly complete. Formica countertop. Pull out shelf for refrigerator in the middle.

Total cost to date: $2543.88 Weight: 672 lbs. Tongue weight: 87 lbs/13% of total.

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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby pchast » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:15 pm

Looks Great so far..... :thumbsup:
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:41 pm

pchast wrote:Looks Great so far..... :thumbsup:


Thanks, Pete! One of the first things I've learned is that little items add up quickly in both weight and cost. I'm hoping to stay under 850lbs in weight and under $4000 in costs.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby pchast » Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:44 pm

Should be no problem if you keep track.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby working on it » Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:39 am

MonteQuest wrote:... One of the first things I've learned is that little items add up quickly in both weight and cost. I'm hoping to stay under 850lbs in weight and under $4000 in costs.


My goal for my 4x8 was to stay under 1000 lbs, and my wife's goal was for me to stay under $500. Neither goal was met, not by a longshot. At 2225 lbs loaded, I exceeded that goal by 2.25x, and I'm not sure about the total cost.

pchast wrote:Should be no problem if you keep track.


I built the trailer for 22 months before it was ready for its' inaugural outing; half of that time it was 50+ miles from home, in a friends home shop, where it would be out of sight of the wife (for whom it was being built...at first). I brought it home once the trailer exterior was completed (ready for weather and highway travel, i.e. painted and sealed), and I'd already exceeded the $500 budget by then.

I had been keeping receipts for expenditures, but threw them away at $1000, and kept on going. Once it was home, in the garage bay I had made ready for it (one bay for trailer, one bay for my Chevelle, one bay for tools & my wife's "antiques/junk"), I asked the wife if she wanted the interior done or not, and if she said yes, then for her to accept further expenses.

I figure that I spent 5-6x the initial budget, and have added greatly to that total in the following 11 years, with all the mods and additions I've made to it. I admit to some excesses, but after the wife never used it (being so small, she said it made her feel like it was a coffin), I took it over, and customized it to my needs, probably spending another $1000 or so. It is what it is.
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  • *extended-run, on-board, 2500w generator *Coleman dual-fuel stove & lantern, Ikea grill, vintage skillet
  • *zinc/stainless front & side racks *98"L x 6" diameter rod & reel carrier tube on roof
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:25 pm

To make my hatchback, I first clamped a piece of 12” wide ¼” plywood to the galley side profile and traced the outline for my pattern. I then rough cut the line to within an 1/8” with my jig saw. Reclamping, I ran my router on the pattern to exactly match the profile.
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Next, I placed the pattern on a piece of ¾” x 11 ¼” x 4’ pine and traced the profile outline onto it. I also rough cut that line to within an 1/8”. Using a tiny pin nailer, I attached the plywood pattern to the pine and ran it through my router table. Using a compass to follow the profile, I scribed a 1 ½” line onto the pine and carefully cut it close to the line. Using my sander, I removed the remainder.
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Once I had a template of ¾” pine, I traced it onto the ¾” x 11 ¼” pine boards, rough cut the profile, pin nailed the pattern to each of the boards, and then routered each so that all the ribs were exact duplicates. I rounded the bottom edges with a 3/8” router bit and sanded them smooth.
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Next, I laid out the 1 ½” horizontal slats 12” on center along the ribs and cut dadoes to receive them. I marked the 1 ½” width and cut ¾” down with my Japanese saw on each side. I used my jigsaw to hog out the center, and my router to clean up the remainder.
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Next, I glued and screwed the horizontal supports to the ribs, sanding sealed it and applied 3 coats of satin polyurethane. The two small insert boards are backing for the taillights. I added an extra cross member at the bottom for extra rigidity.
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Next, attached the FRP to the ribs using construction adhesive and #6 1 ¼” screws.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby MonteQuest » Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:26 pm

Here’s the hatch attached to the hurricane hinge. Gas shocks will support the hatch when finished. Hatch weighs 20lbs without the exterior Filon skin, taillights, and trim.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby steve cowan » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:41 am

Great documentation and really nice work.Not knowing how you are finishing the hatch but will the hinge extend on the ends to keep water out?

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The ends of the hinge overhang 3/4 inch.
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Re: Monte's Ramblin' Rose 4' x 8' teardrop build

Postby tony.latham » Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:05 pm

but will the hinge extend on the ends to keep water out?


I caught that too...

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The hurricane hinge must go about 1/2" beyond the wall. :frightened:

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