10' Standie Foamie ... on hold

[eaglesdare]

Well, I ordered the canvas today. I went to rosebrand.com and got the 72" 7oz canvas in 72" wide. I ordered 40 yards of the stuff. That'll allow me to put on:

1 layer on each inside wall
2 layers on each outside wall
2 layers on the top
a separate piece to do the door

All for just a hair over $200.

I'm looking forward to changing the title on this thread from evil black goo to "Canvas finally"!!!

Mike...

oh yay! i'll be waiting on that update. make sure you have an extra set or two of hands. they will help with the pulling and tugging to get that nice tight fit.

[GPW]

We found it's better to stretch and apply if the canvas is damp ... Just seems to stretch around curves better , and the glue seems to wick into the fibers quicker ... Spray bottle with water in it helps on those tricky areas...

40 yards , that sounds like a LOT of canvas... Any reason you need two layers on the outside .... Bears ???

[millstone]

I am watching this build very carefully. I have planned to do a similar build in the fall.


1. In earlier pictures, it looked like you had one layer of canvas already on the sides. Was that a trial piece, or do you intend to use that panel in your build? Could you canvas your panels on the ground and "canvas tape" the joints?

2. Just to recap, You're using latex exterior gloss paint as your bonding agent?

I'm sure I'll have more questions as your build, and eventually, my build, progress. Thank you for sharing.

Mark G.

[mikeschn]

The canvas arrived today... let me run out and grab a picture...

Mike...

[mikeschn]

Here's what the roll of canvas looks like next to the wall. The plan is to cut 2" off the bottom of the wall, so that I can wrap at least 1/2" of canvas over the top edge, and 1/2" of canvas over the bottom edge.



Here's the texture of the canvas. Similar to the stuff from Home Depot. But the Home Depot stuff is heavier and coarser.


I think this RoseBrand canvas will work just fine! Plus there are no seams to deal with!!!

Mike...

[mikeschn]

Hi Mark,

Yes, I did glue up one side. But I didn't like the way the canvas had a seam, so I cut the seam out. Then I butted the ends up together, but when the canvas dried, it left a gap.

So I'll peel that off, and use the new canvas I just got.

And yes, in my testing I found that the adhesion of canvas to foam is better when using the exterior enamel. So that's what I'll be using.

Mike...

I am watching this build very carefully. I have planned to do a similar build in the fall.


1. In earlier pictures, it looked like you had one layer of canvas already on the sides. Was that a trial piece, or do you intend to use that panel in your build? Could you canvas your panels on the ground and "canvas tape" the joints?

2. Just to recap, You're using latex exterior gloss paint as your bonding agent?

I'm sure I'll have more questions as your build, and eventually, my build, progress. Thank you for sharing.

Mark G.

[GPW]

NICE looking canvas Mike !!! Should make a nice smooth finish !!! So you like the paint best .... Can't wait to try that ...

[Wolffarmer]

Mike

Did you put a coat of paint on the foam first, then put the canvas down and then paint on that?

Randy

[mikeschn]

Mike

Did you put a coat of paint on the foam first, then put the canvas down and then paint on that?

Randy

Yep, that's exactly what I did.

Mike

Okay, I went out and did another sample... I realized that I really like the adhesion of the exterior latex enamel on wood, but I never tried it on canvas...

So here I am doing up a sample on canvas...







Mike...

[Conedodger]

I feel another video coming on....

[mikeschn]

I feel another video coming on....

I don't. We've already done the paint on foam... I haven't tried anything new, although I wondered what would happen if I used that nasty black goo inbetween the foam and the canvas.

I've started planning what I am going to do tomorrow. I have to cut 2" off the bottom. And I am going to glue in a chunk into the wheel well, and cut a new opening. (Not only do I have my current wheel well in the wrong place, it's also the wrong size! )

Mike...

P.S. GPW would definitely approve. He made mention of exactly that in the huge thrifty foamie thread!

[mikeschn]

here's the cut I am going to make to the bottom tomorrow...

The cardboard represents the radius I am going to put on the bottom.



Mike...

[GPW]

Can't wait to see this one ... the Evolution of all this testing ...

[mikeschn]

Okay, here the foam modification...

Here's the picture of the patch glued in. As soon as I took the picture, I put duct tape on the seam to keep the glue under control...


Here I've notched out the wall enough so I can see the hub of the axle. I then took a homemade compass and struck a radius from the hub.


And here I've cut two inches off the bottom, and also cut out the new wheel well...


Patching works!

Mike...

[GPW]

Foam being a homogeneous material , it's so easy to "Cut and Paste " ... repairs work like that too .... if needed ...
Looking COOL Mike !!!