The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:05 am

Thank you Becky. Your support means a lot to me.

GPW, Don't you just hate the dreaded double post. I usually try to check when something seems wonky posting (the dreaded error message :thumbdown: ), before I hit submit again. Not sure what happened this time.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:13 am

KC, we All much enjoy seeing your progress, even again ... :thumbsup: :lol:
Just get Eagle to cut it out if you want ... ;)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:17 pm

A bit more progress on the cabinets today. Good dust pan, dust pan and a half full of sawdust. Took pics, then went over to Jeff's "Grotto" for good company and excellent smoked ribs. Beautiful fall New England day. Sat around the camp fire and enjoyed the conversation. Rained a bit and we huddled our chairs under the grotto in front of the fire. Got a couple of campfire pics, then I proceeded to leave my camera in the cup holder in the arm of the chair I was sitting in. A few Shipyard Pumpkin Ales were consumed. In my defense it was dark when we left. I'll swing by there tomorrow and pick it up, or Jeff said he would be coming by Mecca tomorrow, so I will try to catch him beforehand.

Until then, no pic's and nothing happened. :roll:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:29 pm

Retrieved the camera and put about 4 hrs in on cabinets. If I'm still awake after the drags are over... Maple Grove, really cold dense fall northeast air, fast record times... I will down load pics and post progress. POP, POP, POP.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:32 pm

Okay, so the plan is to round over the bottom corners on the bottom rails (the long cross pieces that span between the walls of the cabin) of the cabinets, and all four (4) corners of the rails for the shelves. I'm doing this both for appearance and so that there are less sharp edges to go bump in the night.

Saturday, couple of hours of work.
Here is the router set up in the router table using the same feather boards that I made for the table saw. Also note that the little window piece on the router fence has been removed to clear the bit.
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At home I fasten the router table to a scrap of ply and then I clamp that to saw horses. I didn't want to screw the router table to the work table, and because of the configuration of the router table legs, I had to get creative to clamp the router table down to the work table.
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The 2x2 is pinching the feet on the router table legs down to the work table.

Here's my test piece mocked up to represent the configuration of my shelves. This arrangement will be used for the key catcher over our pillows, and for the two upper galley shelves.
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Zipped 'em all through.
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Jeff had another cookout at The Grotto (a koi pond cave like deal in his backyard). Mmmm, smoked ribs.
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It was a bit on the cool side and rained some, but we snuggled into the grotto in front of the campfire and enjoyed the food and company.

Sunday, 4 hours work, including a quick jaunt up to Jeff's to retrieve the camera.
I had decided that I would use the Kregg to secure the center mullins to the rails, and the rails to the sides of the cabin walls, but there would be a conflict between the screws if I tried to do that and use them to also connect the side stiles...so a combination of pocket screws and biscuits.

Sorted through the cut pieces, facing them and tried to balance the colors and grains as best I could, then I started in running the Kregg jig.
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Please note the generous pile of wood chips for your consideration.

Used a little piece of scrap luan to keep the Kregg clamp from marring the good face.
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Making progress. Note middle pairs with pocket holes and outer pairs without.
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I had left the long rails a little long because I didn't want to have problems with chip out or kick at the ends of the round over operation. With the set up I used and the hard maple it turned out not to be a problem, but I still had to trim the rails to finish length. It seems that the miter saw table is a little shorter on the left than on the right. Being right handed I wanted to hold the piece on the left and operate the saw with the right, but the table and fence were too short to just clamp my little block to. Well look-ee here, the dog block I had made for the forming jig was the perfect thing to extend the fence just enough to suit.
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Here is a little test piece to see that the pocket screws don't interfere with the biscuits. Biscuits offset to outside so that the slots do not poke through the inside where visible.
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Only room for one screw at the bottoms due to the slot. I think that will be fine, two at the top and one at the bottom. Between that and the shelf/cabinet floor panels, and side wall cleats glued in later to support the outer edges of those, it will be very secure.

Slotted test piece.
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With that all figured out I proceeded to run the rest of the pocket holes.
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Started with the largest cabinet face frame, the lower rear. Did a dry fit.
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Then, after strategically taping waxed paper down to the table, and masking the areas around the joints to prevent the glue from getting every where (I hate the way the stain gets blotchy where the glue has gotten...less sanding this way), I glued, screwed, biscuited and clamped the assembly.
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Squared itself up perfectly.

I did have a little trouble with the upper rail shifting out of flush when I screwed the joints. On the bottom I had the rail clamped to the table, but on top I just tried to hold it down while screwing (no way to clamp in the middle of the table). Saw it happen, backed the screw out, tried again on the second screw location with the same result. On that last little twist the two boards would jump out of flush. So I had some sanding to do later. Next time I will clamp and screw the near side, then flip, clamp and glue the second side and that should work better.

A modest pile of sawdust chips.
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Monday, couple of hours of work.
Pulled all of the tape and waxed paper up, trimmed the excess biscuits sticking out the ends, sanded the little uneven edges at the joins, eased the sharp corners in the openings with the small sanding block, and was pretty pleased with myself. In this pic the bottom is to the left and the top is to the right.
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And here are some detail shots of the joints and back side. (These pics are a little shaky because I had the flash off to combat glare from the white table top.)
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One down, few more to go.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby RandyG » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:26 pm

The way you are building this has got me hooked! Putting all these pieces together here and there, like setting us up in a great movie that everyone knows whats going to happen, but we watch how it will all come together at the end. Glad to see some progress, keep it up!
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby Oldragbaggers » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:16 am

Really sweet, KC. And you're giving me a lot of great insight into how to do some things. Thanks for all the great documentation and detailed pictures.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:02 pm

RandyG & Becky, Thanks for the swell comments. I'm all misty. :? :R

Seriously, your support is very much appreciated and welcome.

Hope to make more progress tomorrow evening. Perhaps glue up another cabinet frame (or two?) and maybe do a little stain color test. :thumbsup:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby bonnie » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:08 am

You do such nice work. I'm always excited to see your posts. Thanks for posting the details.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:58 pm

You are very welcome Bonnie. It is my pleasure. Your generous comments and getting to be part of the great community here are my reward. :thumbsup:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:22 pm

I've been keeping at it. Glued up and sanded down another cabinet face frame, and prepped the next one for glue up. Turning and clamping the opposite side before Kregg screwing made sanding easier. Did some stain and poly samples. Settled on the Gun Stock (reddish) for the Okoume and Natural for the maple. If the red of the gun stock becomes overwhelming I can always paint the ceiling white.

Put in a day getting Mr. B ready for the chunk and installed the four flat wiring kit to the Ford so that I can use that to tow the support ute trailer to the chunk (or my boat) and can adapt that to 7 pin in future. The web searches I did for a wiring kit on the Escape implied that I needed a super duper throw down relay kit to get a simple 4 flat to work, but when I went to install it I found a factory pigtail already installed at the rear(!?!?!?). I went to the trouble of installing the full relay kit on the premise that routing the power lead from the battery to the rear would come in handy latter when I add the charging line to the seven pin. Didn't take any pics of this effort (boring), but I did bother to solder and shrink wrap my connections (don't tell me that crimping is better than soldering...I've made my choice) and used at least 4 times more tie wraps than were provided in the kit. Six (6) tie wraps to secure from battery to rear, plus across the back from taillight to taillight, plus the 4 wire down to the hitch from the taillight? C'mon.

Need to spend some time during the coming week building some stuff for Mr. B, but will load a few pics and add some detail updates as time permits.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby bonnie » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:14 am

There are never enough tie wraps! Great post. Keep going!
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby deleted » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:52 am

OK. It's official. You're awesome. I'm in awe of your knowledge, your skills, your trailer and your workshop! Thanks so much for all of the help you've given me so far on my little design.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:43 pm

Stacie Tamaki wrote:OK. It's official. You're awesome. I'm in awe of your knowledge, your skills, your trailer and your workshop! Thanks so much for all of the help you've given me so far on my little design.


Oh, now cut that out! I'm blushing. Got that warm fuzzy happy feeling. :D 8)

"If it takes someone who knows what they're doing 2 months to build a teardrop I'm hoping to finish mine by spring 2013 in 6.5 months."

That's a great goal. :thumbsup:

If you plan well, keep things simple, use a ready made trailer, work really hard and often you could make that goal. Just don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen quite the way you plan.

We call it "Teardrop Time". Reality and life find ways of getting in the way. :roll: Everything takes longer than you think it should. Everything you touch must be planned, materials collected, resources arranged, work area prepped; many times special tooling must be developed (start at beginning of this sentence...wash, rinse, repeat), then you get to build. Then you must apply finishes and/or weather proofing, and/or erect/assemble...repeat this sentence...repeat it again...keep doing it...take a break...do it again...etc. When things don't work quite the way you intended, sometimes it is necessary to find a solution and work through it. It takes time to both contemplate and execute.

Reality check. Don't be discouraged, but do look at both sides of the story and be prepared for the long haul. I say all of this because I can tell that you take your work seriously and work to a level of quality that takes hard work and dedication. Those traits will serve you well in building a fine TD! :thumbsup:

Have you seen Becky's Lance and Becky's Sagwagon build? I find her story to be inspirational for her commitment to quality. She also is maintaining a simple theme with nice execution. Not to mention that her writing style (...really, her personality) is also very entertaining. Worth the read.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby deleted » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Thanks for the encouragement. Sincerely.

Love that there's such a thing as "teardrop time." I'm anticipating it may take longer than April to finish but if the trailer is road worthy and the weather mild I can still take it out for overnights before I have the entire interior finished and that'll be good enough for me!

Everything you touch must be planned, materials collected, resources arranged, work area prepped; many times special tooling must be developed (start at beginning of this sentence...wash, rinse, repeat), then you get to build. Then you must apply finishes and/or weather proofing, and/or erect/assemble...repeat this sentence...repeat it again...keep doing it...take a break...do it again...etc. When things don't work quite the way you intended, sometimes it is necessary to find a solution and work through it. It takes time to both contemplate and execute.


I completely agree with your advice. I'm a designer at heart, formerly in fashion (couture bridal accessories), on computers (website designer, developer, and illustrator), I've made thousands of miniature origami cranes as fine art pieces and each year I make my dog some crazy Halloween costume from scratch. The things in my favor with this project are that I do have the luxury of time right now to dedicate considerable hours to this project and also have an abnormal amount (so I've been told) of patience and tenacity. In the past people have cringed to watch me tear apart something I've put a lot of effort or time into but I don't mind doing things over, even more than once, to get them right. With this build I won't move on to the next step until the last one is done correctly. My friend likened my willingness to take on this build as the equivalent of "That's how you eat an elephant, one bite at a time" when I told him after I get the design worked out I'm going to focus on one step at a time.

Going to go look at Becky's build right now. Thanks again for everything!
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