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GPW wrote:Thank Goodness for a Sleeper , you don’t need to add much else ... You can always add more later ...
troubleScottie wrote:I wanted to comment on the stage 1, stage 2 , stage 3 wiring plan.
The biggest issue with this is most people wire inside the walls/ceiling which means you have to fully commit early in the process. In addition, you have to design/guess what you need to make the next stage work. For example, if running AC wiring, you cannot easily add a few more inches if it does not quite reach the PDwhatever A plan might be to put the last AC receptacle near where you distribution box will be. Then you only need to rewire from the receptacle to the PD.
Most people wire DC as home runs eg the wire goes from the distribution panel/fuse box/common bus all the way to the device. If you are going to change the end point later, you need to leave a fair amount of extra wire (1-3 feet??). Again, although possible to lengthen with splices, it is more prone to failure.
Second, I do not see where you are going to put the battery, distribution box, bus bars, charger, inverter, etc. They take up some depth -- 6 to 12 inches. And, in the case of the battery, has some mass. On a more typical design, the bulkhead and space immediately behind it between the main sleeping area and the galley and/or the galley is utilized. For you, an obvious place is the left top in your current design drawing. And you do not want other things like clothes, etc piled on top of them. So they would have to be partitioned away. You might need or want to take out the battery at some time, so access is needed. Plus some place/hole for the external power feed. You need to charge the battery some time even if it is only when you are parked at home.
Alternatively, a tongue box could work with the obvious caveats for running wiring -- now from the main cabin, through the wall and into the tongue box.
Finally, I find it really difficult to work in confined spaces doing detail work. Doing the electrical rework will fall into this category. Add lots of tiny screws, a hot soldering iron, reaching into small areas, working bent over on your knees with bad lightning, you might find it a bit daunting. Cutting a hole for the PD into an fully assembled wall/TT might be difficult. The better part of valor may be to design, decide, buy and install most of it up front.
GPW wrote:Make note to self .... Must resist urge to build it like a Sherman Tank ... What started as a simple sleeper has now grown to full TD status ... with electrical system ...
On the other hand you could make the framework with a stained Americana look for a Timber-frame appeal ... End the "timbers" in a design, like a bald eagle head or something appropriately artistic ... plenty of attachment points for the lamps and the computer, stereo , X box , and the big flat screen TV ....
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