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The Roswell

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:18 pm
by angib
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You've asked for them, so here they are - plans for The Roswell.

I've modified the fenders to make them practical to build out of ply - those double-curvature ones in the sketch would be a huge amount of work, probably more than the trailer body!

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The PDF form of the drawings contains all the panels of the trailer drawn at 1:12 scale, so anyone who fancies it can print them, cut them out and made a 1:12 scale model.

Andrew

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:20 pm
by Chris C
You da man, Andrew, you da man! :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup: :applause:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:31 pm
by sdtripper2
Andrew:

Thank you for sharing your talent!
:thumbsup:
:applause:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:37 pm
by ALAN GEDDES
:cry: I can't build any more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won't I won't I won't. :thinking:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:51 pm
by Laredo
Holy cow.

Those are great drawings.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:50 pm
by asianflava
Now the question is: Who is brave enough to build it? Should be easy for one of our resident boat buiders. I guess I meant, easier.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:23 pm
by mikeschn
Looks good Andrew,

I might even try modeling those fenders... sure looks a lot easier than these...

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Mike...

P.S. So who is going to build one of these?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:19 pm
by Nytewyng
To quote Frank from " Everybody Loves Raymond" Holy Crap......that is way cool .........................someday 8)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:41 pm
by robert johnson
Hey guys, you can get airplane wheelpants that look correct from Wag-Aero or Aircraft Spruce, if the wheel size isn't too big. do a Google scearch in images for wheel pants, ...........Bob

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:20 pm
by gasmanptb
You know some will ask so where is the stealth? Can you work it up some time in the next year? I would like to see a good model and drawing to see if maybe if it would fit my taste better. Also could you guys use old fenders from an old car? Say thirtyish for the wheel pants. I think you could get remakes from JC whitney or some of the other places like.
Later Cecil

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:21 am
by angib
gasmanptb wrote:You know some will ask so where is the stealth? Can you work it up some time in the next year?

Yup, they'll be coming some time soon. It would be a lot easier to build and a rear hatch might be practical. However the door/hatch would require some ingenuity to get a good seal.

Also could you guys use old fenders from an old car? Say thirtyish for the wheel pants.

For the Roswell, that's tricky, as the backs of the fenders are exposed so much - not only at the back where the body tapers away, but also along the lower inside where the body curves in (like a rocker panel). So the fenders need to be shaped and finished on both sides.

Aircraft wheel pants would certainly do if the cost was right - it would probably be necessary to go down one or two wheel sizes, but the Roswell will be light so that's no problem.

Andrew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:22 am
by asianflava
I don't think aircraft wheel pants would be large enough for automotive tires.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:27 am
by mikeschn
6:00 X 6 fairing styled after the late model Cessna 172 and is used on just about any designed aircraft. Measure 42" by 8". Overall size: 44"L x 8-1/4"W Opening Size: 8-1/4"W x 23-1/4"L

Seems to me that this might work on a 12" HF Wheel... :o

Mike...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:32 am
by angib
mikeschn wrote:6:00 X 6 fairing styled after the late model Cessna 172

It pretty much works - a 6:00x6 aviation tyre is 17" diam x 6" width which is about the same as an 8" tyre - a 12" tyre is 21-22" diameter.

Several factors:
- Road tyres need to stick out of the pants further as roads have obstacles like kerbs (sorry, curbs) that are not often found on runways....
- The wheel pant moves with the wheel on landing gear, so either you have to rig up brackets to do that on a trailer, or the pant has to be mounted high enough that the wheel doesn't hit it at full bounce.
- That brochure says there are bulkheads inside the pants - they probably have to be removed to make space for the larger tyre. But that's still a lot less work than making your own fenders.

However, the size remains a killer. Here is the Roswell with these fenders to scale:

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Looks a bit silly, eh?

Andrew

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:28 pm
by gasmanptb
Well you said it would be easier to go and build out of fiberglass anyway so why not the fender's or wheelpants also. Sucks but hey it will look right and you couls use the tire size you want. If you have an old aircraft bone yard close go there and just look as some bigger aircraft had biggerwheel pants. I don't know of any on the eastcoast near me but in ohio I knew where a couple were. The stealth would be ahelluva lot easier. I still say the fenders of an old car with the added sheet metal work would be a little better than fiberglass work, but thats my stand No matter what the builder better be good at his fabricating of parts or it will look awkeward.
Cecil