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just a general framing question

Postby bobhenry » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:42 pm

Is it just me or is this door header framing method just plain wrong ??


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It's a tiny house doorway and the king studs are multiple segments. I don't see it handling the dynamic loads that a swinging exterior door exerts on those few nails to hold everything in alignment.
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Re: just a general framing question

Postby CarlLaFong » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:44 pm

Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!
Those jack studs or trimmers, should have king studs, next to them, that extend all the way to the top plate. The header should be a 4X4
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Re: just a general framing question

Postby planovet » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:17 pm

Not the way I would have done it :?

The correct way:

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Re: just a general framing question

Postby 48Rob » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:26 pm

You have all shown the right way, which is "right", but this thing they are building can't be 6-8 feet wide.
The door frame is well attached at no less than 12 points, probably with 2 nails or screws per location.

Reality says that is is more than strong enough to support even a heavy solid door.
As for roof loads and needing a "proper" header, I'm not seeing a critical issue there.
They have a header of sorts above the door that transfers the roof load to the corner posts.

It isn't "right" but it should work just fine.
Everything they have done is overkill.
I'd be more worried about that little trailers ability to handle the load...

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Re: just a general framing question

Postby CarlLaFong » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:46 pm

^^^^^^^^Yeah, technically, it's wrong, but you're right. Nothing is going to fall down or collapse, except that poor frame.That sucker is going to weigh a ton when it's done :shock:
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Re: just a general framing question

Postby jstrubberg » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:13 pm

Every one of these tiny houses I have seen pictures of are massively over-framed. A few more 2x4s in that one and they wouldn't need siding!
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Re: just a general framing question

Postby Roly Nelson » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:01 pm

The Cat Man's got it right. Full length members at each side of door are the way to go. However, it won't fail, but why not do it correctly the first time?
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Re: just a general framing question

Postby markhusbands » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:34 am

Why not do it correctly and use material with smaller dimension than 2x4s?
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Re: just a general framing question

Postby 48Rob » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:01 am

Why not do it correctly and use material with smaller dimension than 2x4s?


Most people who have some, or little construction knowledge rely on their past experience and thus use standard building material and practices.
Some may also believe that a "mobile" house must be built stronger to withstand the extra stresses of being towed down the road.
Standard built houses do not do well being towed down the road...but it is not from the material, or size of the framing, but from a different method of construction.

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Re: just a general framing question

Postby markhusbands » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:17 pm

The weight of the framing itself becomes more of a structural issue when in motion, I assume.
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