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Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby KsPete » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:19 pm

I was reading a thread on another forum about peel and stick vinyl tiles. Most of the comments advised against it, basically because of concerns with the floor flexing and extremes with heat and cold. Has anyone here used it and how did it work out for you? I'm building a standy and was planning to use it on the floor. I'm using 3/4 inch tongue and groove over a 2x4 framework. I plan to screw and glue it down good, so I'm not sure there is going to be that much flexing. But, I can see where extremes of cold and heat might impact it.

How about a painted floor? Has anyone done that with success?

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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby deleted » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:30 pm

I'm about to do a painted floor in my tiny 4'x6' trailer. From what I've researched online for the past few weeks an oil based porch paint is the way to go. I'd have done it already but am leaving on a short trip and it takes 28 days for the paint to cure completely so when I return I'll begin the project.

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Here are the best tutorials I found about how to paint a wood floor:

http://www.elledecor.com/home-remodeling/punch-list/how-to-paint-wood-floor

http://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-paint-a-wood-floor/

http://www.valsparpaint.com/en/how-to/interior/projects/how-to-paint-a-floor.html

And an oil based paint tutorial:
http://www.thecreativityexchange.com/2013/05/craft-room-table-before-and-after-oil-based-paint-tricks.html

Good luck on your project. I can update you in early September how my floor turned out and if I'm happy with it.
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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby doug hodder » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:44 pm

Like you mentioned..."others advise against it" I would too, others may swear by them...I swear at them. I had it in the house when I moved in...they all lifted and dirt liked to get in the cracks. I'd think the typical heat/ cool cycles of a trailer that isn't in a controlled environment would cause them to lift prematurely, maybe the adhesives are better now though. You'd need to seal the plywood with something like an epoxy and then sand it level so that you got good adhesion, and use a roller on each tile. Check the application instructions. I'd think you're better off with sheet vinyl and a troweled adhesive and then capture the edges with a base shoe or the aluminum cove molding. While it's not cheap, Marmoleum gives you a fantastic vintage appearance in a standy. It's thick and won't allow any rocks to scratch. Done it 2x now, I won't do anything but IT on any future standy builds. Just my experience. Doug
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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby bc toys » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:31 pm

I used them in my 1st trailer and when it got hot they moved around like there wasn't any glue on them so if it was me I would use a solid flooring or paint
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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby rebapuck » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:27 pm

I've seen this Tech Floor advertised lately and love the look. Not inexpensive.
http://www.techfloor.com/
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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby warnmar10 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:53 pm

doug hodder wrote:Like you mentioned..."others advise against it" I would too, others may swear by them...I swear at them. I had it in the house when I moved in...they all lifted and dirt liked to get in the cracks. I'd think the typical heat/ cool cycles of a trailer that isn't in a controlled environment would cause them to lift prematurely, maybe the adhesives are better now though. You'd need to seal the plywood with something like an epoxy and then sand it level so that you got good adhesion, and use a roller on each tile. Check the application instructions. I'd think you're better off with sheet vinyl and a troweled adhesive and then capture the edges with a base shoe or the aluminum cove molding. While it's not cheap, Marmoleum gives you a fantastic vintage appearance in a standy. It's thick and won't allow any rocks to scratch. Done it 2x now, I won't do anything but IT on any future standy builds. Just my experience. Doug
Against my wishes and my better judgement... my wife picked a peel and stick for a bathroom remodel project. To make matters worse the design called for 3/8" spacing and, wait for it, grout. [sigh]That's right, he said peel & stick vinyl tile with grout joints.[/sigh]

I laid the tile over new 3/4 OSB T&G and per manufacturer's recommendation I used a bonding primer on the bare OSB.

That was 6 years ago and not a single tile has budged, not even the grout. This was 'the kids' bathroom and the floor has seen its share of water and wet towels etc.

I still don't like the idea but I have had to eat some crow over the deal. I give all the credit to the bonding primer.
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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby KsPete » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:12 pm

Looks like I'll be using paint. Stacie, thanks for the links, they were helpful. Thanks to everyone else for all your advice.
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Re: Peel 'n stick tile?

Postby Bogo » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:40 pm

I've been thinking of using prefinished 5/16" thick laminate wood flooring. Surprisingly not much heavier than vinyl tiles. When I got the specs on vinyl tiles I was surprised at how much they weighed. It is a little over 1 lbs per sq ft. for a low to medium quality tile, and can be up to 1.5 to 2lbs for a high quality one. 5/16" thick laminate runs only slightly more than 1 lbs per sq foot. If fully bonded down it can also serve as the compression resistance layer for the skin of a SIP floor.
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