Moderators, Folks - Website Sloooooow?

[Steve_Cox]

Hiekki,

Don't worry, the slowdown is probably just the Pentagon's National Security Agency building a file on you. All posts you read and respond to are possibly being monitored and decoded.

(Secret message from the deep South.)

M R DUCKS, M R NOT, M R 2, C M WINGS.

[Podunkfla]

Okay Ive got Opera downloaded and ready to install but will that overun Internet Explorer or what will that do to it then?

Heikki

Nothing... you can run as many browsers as you want! It will even import all your favorites or shortcuts too. I run 4 different browsers.

[bve]

Heike if you have done testing to other servers and the results / speeds are OK you have pretty much eliminated your computer and your ISP as the 'source' of the problem.

Troubleshooting your connectivity is a bit like tracing an electrical short, you want to go through a logical process of elimination until you find the short.

In network connectivity there are a few 'layers' of transport each needs to be functioning correctly or the results are unpredictable - not unlike electricity. In terms of your internet connection we can look at a few things, which likely your ISP has already taken you through - which is why they indicated 'it wasn't a problem on their end'.

Odds are the problem is somewhere between where your ISP's network responsibility ends and the server the forums are on - the worst place for this issue because until the problem affects lot's of people it won't be taken too seriously by those in between which we have no one to contact - sorry

We can mostly eliminate your modem, however it is sometimes good to 'reboot' it, simply power it off and on (or unplug it and plug it back in if there is no power switch).

If you have a hardware router or firewall it would be a good idea to also 'reboot' it after the modem has Finnished rebooting, same way power it off then back on.

After your router / firewall is rebooted, restart your computer - not a good idea to just power it off though. Follow the steps you normally use for your PC to shut it down and power it back up.

The above 3 steps give you a 'clean' system from home. If nothing else you may free up some memory that may have been in use for no good reason (lot's of applications are like this - poor programing).

Now that you have a good clean system to work with try the forums again, if you still have a problem, try a few other overseas web sites - this isn't always easy to do, because even though the site may be for a company overseas it could be hosted down the street from you. www.telus.com is in Canada - I know this as I work for them, another to try is www.cbc.ca which is in Canada.

If telus.com and cbc.com load fine and mikenchell.com does not we need to find out where the 'bottleneck' is.

We can try some old school networking tools to test for a bottleneck, however even these can be misleading as many servers these days 'stealth' themselves to prevent hacking.

Having tested a bit on my PC, I know the server the forums are on is in fact hiding 'somewhat'.

You can 'traceroute' the path your PC is taking to get to www.mikenchell.com this will 'hop' from server to server and report back how long it took at each hop.

We need your command prompt to do this.

If you run Linux you'll want to open a terminal and type "traceroute www.mikenchell.com" and press enter.

On windows, click start -> run and in the box that comes up type "cmd" and press enter - this will bring your command prompt up. In the command prompt type "tracert www.mikenchell.com" and press enter.

This is what it will look like, although you will take a different 'route' therefore the ip addresses or servers responding will be a bit different.

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burke@demon:~$ traceroute www.mikenchell.com
traceroute to www.mikenchell.com (66.147.229.251), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  0.698 ms  0.385 ms  0.358 ms
 2  d66-222-192-1.abhsia.telus.net (66.222.192.1)  25.998 ms  23.339 ms  22.562 ms
 3  154.11.212.130 (154.11.212.130)  21.949 ms  21.553 ms  21.904 ms
 4  chcgildtgr00.bb.telus.com (154.11.11.34)  54.066 ms  54.597 ms  53.878 ms
 5  peer-02-ge-3-0-2-41.chcg.twtelecom.net (66.192.252.101)  65.415 ms  55.889 ms  56.462 ms
 6  66-126-65-30.static.twtelecom.net (66.162.65.30)  77.278 ms  73.962 ms  72.955 ms
 7  66-126-65-30.static.twtelecom.net (66.162.65.30)  73.984 ms  73.322 ms  72.960 ms
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  *


The stars * above may be indicating a problem, but likely it is simply the result of 'stealth' behaviour on the server www.mikenchell.com.

What we are really interested in is the numbers beside the servers' ip 73.984 ms 73.322 ms etc. this is the response time of the servers - lower is better.

Another simple old school test is "ping" it works kind of like the game of ping pong, you "ping" and the server "pongs" a response back. The command is the same on pretty much any computer "ping www.mikenchell.com" Unfortunately the server the forum is on won't play with us - it's 'stealthing' itself.

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burke@demon:~$ ping www.mikenchell.com
PING www.mikenchell.com (66.147.229.251) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- www.mikenchell.com ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13063ms


This should give you a good start, let us know how you make out.


Burke

[bve]

Ok please help me out cache? Sounds French...

Classic Finn

PS Speed Test result


915 kb/s 436 kb/s 55 ms

I think it is a French term. Although Google translates it from French to English as the same, as it does from French to German, or even French to Italian - no Finnish translator.

Your web browser 'caches' or stores some of the website content on your computer so the sites can load faster by only pulling the changes from the server. Things like the pictures, colors or the 'stylesheets' used to display the look of the page. The content in the forums, everything we type / read is stored in a database - it is dynamic content - not a good idea to cache it, where as the pictures and the styles are 'static' content so they are safe to cache or store, the text we type wouldn't be cached because the pages 'tell' your browser not to cache it.

Web caching is done to give the illusion of better speeds, and in most cases if done properly it makes perfectly good sense. On a larger scale a 'proxy' server is used to cache the websites, a proxy is sort of a middle man who only gives you the changes since the last time you visited, in fact most ISPs use some sort of proxy and some websites too, again this is to give the illusion of speed.


Burke

[Classic Finn]

Well Ive got the other browser and sure seems to be working very nicely and a lot quicker now than the past 2 days.


Im no computer wizard as many of you are but I got it. And Im learning a lot from you all. Thank You indeed. Im thankful to you.

regards
Classic Finn

[Classic Finn]

Hiekki,

Don't worry, the slowdown is probably just the Pentagon's National Security Agency building a file on you. All posts you read and respond to are possibly being monitored and decoded.

(Secret message from the deep South.)

M R DUCKS, M R NOT, M R 2, C M WINGS.

Ohh Steve so Im part of the Pentagon now as well..
Ohh and yes we do our utmost to keep the Russians over on their side of the border since you all know what we think of them here..

Classic Finn
PS But again it dont have nuttn to do wit this here top ick.

[Steve_Cox]

Hiekki,

Don't worry, the slowdown is probably just the Pentagon's National Security Agency building a file on you. All posts you read and respond to are possibly being monitored and decoded.

(Secret message from the deep South.)

M R DUCKS, M R NOT, M R 2, C M WINGS.

Ohh Steve so Im part of the Pentagon now as well..
Ohh and yes we do our utmost to keep the Russians over on their side of the border since you all know what we think of them here..

Classic Finn
PS But again it dont have nuttn to do wit this here top ick.

Sorry about the attempted hijacking Opera is indeed faster than IE and Mozilla, but not as intuitive to use.

[Classic Finn]

Hiekki,

Don't worry, the slowdown is probably just the Pentagon's National Security Agency building a file on you. All posts you read and respond to are possibly being monitored and decoded.

(Secret message from the deep South.)

M R DUCKS, M R NOT, M R 2, C M WINGS.

Ohh Steve so Im part of the Pentagon now as well..
Ohh and yes we do our utmost to keep the Russians over on their side of the border since you all know what we think of them here..

Classic Finn
PS But again it dont have nuttn to do wit this here top ick.

Sorry about the attempted hijacking Opera is indeed faster than IE and Mozilla, but not as intuitive to use.

Hi Steve so do you recommend somthing better since I dont know much about this here subject..

Heikki

[Steve_Cox]

Hiekki,

Don't worry, the slowdown is probably just the Pentagon's National Security Agency building a file on you. All posts you read and respond to are possibly being monitored and decoded.

(Secret message from the deep South.)

M R DUCKS, M R NOT, M R 2, C M WINGS.

Ohh Steve so Im part of the Pentagon now as well..
Ohh and yes we do our utmost to keep the Russians over on their side of the border since you all know what we think of them here..

Classic Finn
PS But again it dont have nuttn to do wit this here top ick.

Sorry about the attempted hijacking Opera is indeed faster than IE and Mozilla, but not as intuitive to use.

Hi Steve so do you recommend somthing better since I dont know much about this here subject..

Heikki

No, I really think you were being spied on.......

[Bill Fernandez]

This one is over my head see you all later