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Postby Steve_Cox » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:30 pm

I really admire that shine. You did a nice job. :thumbsup:

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Postby 2bits » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:30 am

Thank you M and Steve and everyone I love you all! Well.. not like THAT haha...
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Postby Mary K » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:11 pm

Steve_Cox wrote:I really admire that shine. You did a nice job. :thumbsup:


Thanks Steve, :) That really means a lot to me. :thumbsup:


2bits, we love you too. :lips: :R :lol:

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Postby 2bits » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:04 pm

kiacker wrote:Best of luck in your build! This forum is a great resource and the builders are are the best! If you get stuck, there is always someone here who can help ya out! Don't forget the pictures!!!! :thumbsup:


Lisa, I just read and re read and committed to memory all you said. that is good stuff! Thanks for the great reply! I have a goal of the Beaver's Bend meet but I am not going to rush the job or skimp in anyway (unless it is set up to where I can still add it later)

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Postby 2bits » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:40 pm

Mary Kay, I think you might have the most comprehensive build photos I have ever seen! I love the electrical raceway, I notice in one pic you can see the piano hinge when it is closed, and in another pic you can't see it, what did you do different? I wish I would print out all your photos and put them in a book, but I couldn't afford the ink! Awesome job of documenting your build!
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Lots of good ideas here

Postby ArtMini » Mon May 26, 2008 10:04 pm

I'm hoping to build a woody, My g/f and I discussed it and we both like the woody better. I'm thinking glueing, then stapling/screwing down the top wood to the spars then glueing trim strips across the row of screws/staples. I figure what ever I use to seal the trailer will take care of any leak problems. Is polyurathane enough to seal the outside? I read some where here about boat sealer too?

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Re: Lots of good ideas here

Postby Steve_Cox » Tue May 27, 2008 8:58 am

Art Mini wrote:I'm hoping to build a woody, My g/f and I discussed it and we both like the woody better. I'm thinking glueing, then stapling/screwing down the top wood to the spars then glueing trim strips across the row of screws/staples. I figure what ever I use to seal the trailer will take care of any leak problems. Is polyurathane enough to seal the outside? I read some where here about boat sealer too?
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Polyurethane won't seal. It will form small cracks where the plywood and the trim meet due to the expansion and contraction in the wood and the lack of flexibility in the polyurethane. If you are planning a "woody". Take the time and expense to coat all the plywood and trim with epoxy inside and out, especially the end grain of the plywood. When, not if, water gets to the end grain of plywood it can travel as much as 18" into the wood grain and you won't know it until bacteria and fungus start making the wood turn black under your polyurethane. Every screw and staple is also a possible place for water intrusion, use them sparingly and use a type that won't rust or corrode, silicon bronze boat screws work pretty good. It would be a shame to build a trailer that falls apart in a few years.
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Postby doug hodder » Tue May 27, 2008 10:39 am

What Steve said!!! :thumbsup: Doug
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Re: Lots of good ideas here

Postby Mary K » Tue May 27, 2008 10:59 am

Steve_Cox wrote:
Polyurethane won't seal. It will form small cracks where the plywood and the trim meet due to the expansion and contraction in the wood and the lack of flexibility in the polyurethane. If you are planning a "woody". Take the time and expense to coat all the plywood and trim with epoxy inside and out, especially the end grain of the plywood. When, not if, water gets to the end grain of plywood it can travel as much as 18" into the wood grain and you won't know it until bacteria and fungus start making the wood turn black under your polyurethane. Every screw and staple is also a possible place for water intrusion, use them sparingly and use a type that won't rust or corrode, silicon bronze boat screws work pretty good. It would be a shame to build a trailer that falls apart in a few years.
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I have to back Steve up on this. I have a nice mouldy spot in the top skin that need fixing because I thought this would do the Job. (Note, It has done a fine job on the skin. Just not where two pieces of wood meet)
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I will be going back and epoxying all the wood trim where it touches the skin AND all the seams in the trim. (Rabbit Joints).

Ya have to realize that a Teardrops will flex some when you pull them down the road and things get bumpy. Epoxy will flex a little, the Urethane will not. I have proof. :lol:

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Postby Mary K » Tue May 27, 2008 11:15 am

2bits wrote:Mary Kay, I think you might have the most comprehensive build photos I have ever seen! I love the electrical raceway, I notice in one pic you can see the piano hinge when it is closed, and in another pic you can't see it, what did you do different? I wish I would print out all your photos and put them in a book, but I couldn't afford the ink! Awesome job of documenting your build!


Thank you. I did try to take as many pictures as I could. I wanted to help other newbie builders see how I built my TD. I knew when I was building it helped me to see other build pictures.

I am not sure what the difference was in the pictures of the wireway hinge. It might have been the camera viewpoint or an older picture that didn't have the hinge installed yet. :thinking:

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Re: Lots of good ideas here

Postby ArtMini » Tue May 27, 2008 10:58 pm

Thankyou Steve, now the question is what kind of epoxy? Isn't epoxy a type of glue? is it clear? sorry just want to make sure i do this right

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Art Mini wrote:I'm hoping to build a woody, My g/f and I discussed it and we both like the woody better. I'm thinking glueing, then stapling/screwing down the top wood to the spars then glueing trim strips across the row of screws/staples. I figure what ever I use to seal the trailer will take care of any leak problems. Is polyurathane enough to seal the outside? I read some where here about boat sealer too?
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Polyurethane won't seal. It will form small cracks where the plywood and the trim meet due to the expansion and contraction in the wood and the lack of flexibility in the polyurethane. If you are planning a "woody". Take the time and expense to coat all the plywood and trim with epoxy inside and out, especially the end grain of the plywood. When, not if, water gets to the end grain of plywood it can travel as much as 18" into the wood grain and you won't know it until bacteria and fungus start making the wood turn black under your polyurethane. Every screw and staple is also a possible place for water intrusion, use them sparingly and use a type that won't rust or corrode, silicon bronze boat screws work pretty good. It would be a shame to build a trailer that falls apart in a few years.
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Postby 2bits » Wed May 28, 2008 7:35 pm

Man, I am glad you posted that Steve. That totally makes sense. It is funny what is so important that doesn't get mentioned all the time. I guess that's another thing on my list! Thanks for the info! :thumbsup:
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