Looking for some specifics on peoples WW conctruction

[kimkathan]

I was wondering what people used for the construction of their WW TTT. Do you insulate the walls, what were the walls, roof, floor made from as far as plywood thickness. Also, what rough weights are people coming in at?

[mikeschn]

I used 1/2" plywood for the walls. I think I came in at about 800 lbs.

Mike...

[starleen2]

5mm luan/ 3/4 foam insulation, 5mm luan sandwich constuction @6 feet wide 10 ft long =900 lbs

[vwbeamer]

What does WW stand for?

[starleen2]

WW=Weekend Warrior

[kimkathan]

OK, so after researching.....
Looks like floor should be 3/4" plywood coated and insulated if chosen.
Walls look like I'll do 1/4" plywood, 1/2" or 3/4" insulation, 1/8" interior, 1/2" framing. What should I use for the roof? Have people insulated it? The hinge and slide-over portion is what has me perplexed. Guess it will become more obvious as I start to work on it. Standard counter width is around 24"? Also, I was looking at the Alto WW plans. 16' is overkill for what I need, but I do like the door off the side and the hinge up further. Any ideas on how to incorporate this? That way, I could put the gally up front, and do a goucho couch (I have a fouton mattress that would work for this) in the back that sits up 22-24" and slide the dog crates under there at night.

[starleen2]

How does a 12 ft version sound to ya?

[kimkathan]

I've seen that in older posts. Really like the looks of it, but weight would be an issue, Looking to keep it under 1200# if possible. Max tow for the Subaru is 2000# and anything over 1000 is recommended brakes. Minimal galley inside and like I said, some sort of Goucho couch thing for avaible floor room during the day and room for the dog crates at nightis what I'm thinking.
Just drug home a pop up for the frame. Have to strip it down and see what I have. Frame seems to be in good shape I think it's 10 x 6.5.
I've tried playing around with some of the CAD programs, but haven't been having much luck. Play around with basic floor plans on graph paper, but having a bit of apprehension with the profile.
IF I did try something like this, but a bit shorter, what would people recommend for the roof? Are the sides overkill for what can be cold and wet in the spring and fall in New England, and heating with a ceramic heater?
Also, for sway preventing/minimizing where is it best to put the majority of the weight? I'd be tempted to say more towards the tongue? Any help in any of this is much appreciated up front, as everyone around here that I talk to about this project thinks I'm insane!

[RAYVILLIAN]

Hi kim
Actually WW originally stood for Winter Warrior. Mike's original concept was a spin off of the Weekender and was suppose to be a 4 season camper. So I thought it needed lots of insulation

Ours has 5/4 cedar framing in the walls with 1" insulation and 1 1/2" insulation in the roof. Walls and roof were skin inside and out with luan plywood. The floor is 3/4" plywood. But ours came in on the heavy side at 1600lbs So your probably gona want to go Mike's way with the 1/2" ply in the walls.

Edevans has built one like Mike's with 1/2" ply in walls and I believe 1/4" in the roof and no insulation but it is 6' wide and weighs around 800lbs.

Our current build is 6' wide by 12' long and I'm trying some lighter build techniques and I'm hoping to keep it at 1600 lbs.

I don't know how light one could be built. It needs to be a bit stronger framing wise because of the lack of a bulkhead wall to stiffen the structure in the middle like a teardrop has. There has been 3 built that has been at or below the 1000 lb. mark so you should be able to build on that light.

I'll try to keep awake and watch here to help you as much as I can.

Gary
ps here is a link to ed's gallery with some pics of his family fun trailer. it is built on a popup frame like you talking about.

http://tnttt.com/album_ ... er_id=2806

One important thing about the hinge is the sides of the hatch have go forward of the hinge or you get a hole when the top is up.

As far as no CAD I built the first one by just cutting out luan plywood on a table and it worked. OF course since I started design the new one in cad I'm amazed that it did.

[RAYVILLIAN]

As far as insulation in walls and the roof unless your planning on some serious winter camping I wouldn't go over 3/4". We've slept in ours down to 3 degrees one night and a ceramic heater kept us cozy. At the 20's we turn the heater down as far as it can go and it stays in the 60's inside.

As far as the profile just lay some plywood out and start drawing till you get what look right to you.

Gary