I was referring to Coleman user Pete42's Post above of today @ 08:34 ~
I have a coleman cooler somewhere in the garage like the one Len had we used it in pop-up many years ago I just hated buying ice or frozen milk jugs which took up most of the space so I bought a coleman 12/120 volt cooler which works for us we do add frozen stuff to help keep it cold.
My embedded Links are intended to inform about what design Pros have done to get improved performance, as noted in the very-respected Backwoods Solar Site quote I linked re: 3" to 5" of Insulation. I never meant for a person to buy pricy products; just study how they're constructed.
Yet another Truckload [literally] of Thermax was dropped off at my local 'Resource 2000' Recycling Center recently, and I could have gotten full Sheets of 2" Thermax for a song. Guesstimate for 3" Wall Thermax Cooler materials for me: $20-. Look for 'blems' or broken Thermax Sheets if you can.
Not that my 'approval' is needed, but your idea of 2" of Thermax is a good one IF you feel that's the right tradeoff of Food space vs. Insulation 'space'. No argument here from the Peanut Gallery... Will that Insulation level meet your Specs of 5 -> 7 Day performance? I have my doubts, but look forward to your initial Test results.
A small Box of Thermax sealed with, say, Metal Duct Tape holding a small chunk of Ice would be an interesting test to conduct in your Garage or House. See what happens on a small scale, taking care to size the Ice amount to the experimental Box volume in the same Ratio as the final desired Ice Block to Cooler volume ratio. It won't simulate the 'cold' loss inevitable when opening a Drawer, but you could get close in performance evaluation.
Here's the immutable facts as I understand them from decades in the wild World of High Vacuum Chambers... Absent Vacuum-evacuated Walls - and they would crush in from Sea Level Air pressure on the Coleman - there isn't a way now, or back 50 years ago to have a MODEST Ice Block go for your spec'd 'long' Camping Time periods in the Coleman Wall depth pictured in the Thread of last year. Besides the 1st person Pete42 Testimonial above, Len's picture of the Cooler size vs. Ice Container Size - leftover Ice notwithstanding - is a knockout spec even in your own, reasonable design criteria of not having Ice [or super-Insulation] consume 'too much' space. Pete42 confirms what Len's picture tells me: 'lots' of Ice is req'd. Why? There HAS to be 'lots' of loss through the thin, low-R Coleman Walls and construction. Save a few VERY esoteric techniques, 'good' Insulation takes space, period [space = Cooler or Building Wall depth].
That said, I see the entire front Wall on my '5 Day' Igloo Cooler is 1' thick, tops. On the BEST day of Igloo Manufacturing, that's an ~R-7 WITH the 'right' Foamed-in material. This is why you and I are disappointed with that Cooler performance. With the 2" minimum of Thermax construction you're contemplating, you'd get an ~R-16; >double the Insulating performance right off the Bat... Good show!
When temps are only shifting 0.1 F degrees over many minutes, my $20- [on sale] Radio Shack Indoor Outdoor/Thermometer was plenty accurate for noting temp TREND information; not absolute accuracy information of no interest. My Oven Timer was my Data Logger that went off each hour so I could collect Data manually. Test time invested: ~1 hour?
I'm VERY adverse to 'Belly Bumping' on these Forums, and don't go there. The Thread of last year you kindly linked smacked of people defending their point-of-view, devoid of Science and simple Testing like I just did 'fer grins'. So, I DON'T consider what Len posted as Data whatsoever. Not because those Posts lack credible numeric Data, but because of all the 'puffery' and what smacked of defending a 'choice'; facts be damned. As with blowhard Millionaire Pundits on Radio and TV, I dismiss what comes out of the mouths of all such folks instantaneously. If there was old Coleman-supporting Data presented, quite frankly it's lost in the verbal 'noise'; flaming; cap letters; and other incivility infecting that 2010 Thread exchange. Physics and Data are what they are. No need to scream or get pissy about them. Either a block of Ice size 'x' melts in Cooler Brand 'y' over time period 'z' or it doesn't. Test it. Post it here. Otherwise, go shout down some folks at a local Political Meeting.
What Sunfrost, Yeti and Engel have done is what HAS to be done to gain superior [not perfect] performance. If they could replicate some Coleman 50-year old insulating 'magic', they would. See Pete42's Post. There WAS no Physics-defying magic achieved, nor mass Manufactured. SOMEONE in the hard core, 'travel the World' 'Expedition' Camper population would fabricate their own super-Coolers, as they do entire Vehicles. I don't advocate striving for Cooler perfection whatsoever. This is why I suggested things like [only] a 3" Cooler bottom vs. 2" Thermax used elsewhere; centered, or off-centered, Ice Block placement up high; ability to use Water or not; and so on. Krown and Pete42's Beverage Coolers are other known-working Coolers worth emulating on the cheap w/blem Thermax or whatever... See my favorite 'Astrofoil' here, as Hiker Chick mentioned in that 2010 Thread here [same as 'Reflectix']:
Astrofoil
Your Specs above sound super. I chime in with the hope of preventing not hitting your goals by not being aware of the minimum that has to be addressed, as has been by Manufacturers with
serious Resources - money and brains - and meet your Specs of interest. Their successes - to be studied and emulated, I think - are why I keep referring to not 'reinventing the Wheel'. If Coleman pulled off what Yeti and Engel have, I'd like to see some simple test results of how and what they did from a dispassionate Owner of an Old Coleman. Otherwise, I fear the present tack is toward creating yet another old Coleman with the 'Old School' Cooler performance Pete42 attests to.
I didn't read the Yeti Cooler Specs [again] before writing this, but I did just now. 2" Poly Insulation Construction w/a 3" Lid and full Gasketing. Bingo! Call and ask them for TD-sized Cooler Performance Data. Betcha they have, and will gladly send, a bunch... What a great 'free' starting point for you.
Yeti Coolers
I'm sitting here typing ~80 WPM in a Solar House I designed after humbly reading up on this topic for >30 years. It's a 1,750 sq. ft. 'Cooler' w/9' Ceilings: R-50 Ceiling Insulation; R-28 Walls; a 6" Slab on R-4 Blueboard to slightly decouple that unmoving Concrete Thermal Mass Floor from Earth temps just a little bit. Insulated Foundation. It was 57 F when I walked in 4 nights ago w/no Heating whatsoever, save Passive Solar Gain. House Temp right now: 67 F. Guess which finger I'm holding up right now toward Middle Eastern Oil Despots?
Energy savings over House lifespan: unknown. Comfort level: Priceless!
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Edit P.S. to DMcCam ~ No apologies req'd below; thank you anyway. My comments re: flaming, ad nauseum, was in reference to the 2010 Thread. Silly, technically-illiterate behavior IMO.
3-way Powered Coolers vs. un-powered [Ice in Cooler] comparisons spin my Head some due to the Apples-to-Oranges comparison, but time and tests will sort all that out. Of sole interest to me would be what Ice in an old Coleman does vs. Ice in a newer Commercial and/or home-built Cooler. Apples-to-Apples. What I read was that Pete42 'moved on' from the old Coleman because of the replacement Ice periodically needed [fundamentally at odds with your 5 -> 7 day design Spec], and the amount of space that Ice took up. Clarification will help.