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Kitchen build..... My wife keeps me busy alright. FINISHED !

Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:33 am

I was wondering if you guys were interested in a Kitchen build thread.

Some/all of you may know that my last job contract ended the 7th September.....so I am formally unemployed.

Been looking for the last 8 weeks, had a couple of dead end interviews.

So last week Nicola informed me that I would be gutting the kitchen and rebuilding and replacing pretty much everything.

Anyone interested in the story as it unfolds?

Some pics, some pain, some preliminary planning?


When we bought this house two years ago, we knew that there was a lot that needed going over, and replacing or sorting out.

The kitchen was the biggest, most expensive thing that needed doing.

It was fitted as an MFI kitchen about 23 years ago and has over time become tired. Things like the integrated fridge and freezer was long overdue for replacing, as were some/most of the units.

So when Nicola suggested I gut out everything and re-fit a new kitchen, I had to agree that this was probably a perfect time.
I may never get the chance to build in another kitchen on my own, and without a day job there to interfere with the build process.

I will tell the story in as logical a way as I can, so that any of you who want to give it a go, can follow the basic guidance on here.

Let me know how you feel.

Just a couple of mid-today pics to show where we are headed.

Everything has to be removed as I will be stripping away the tiles and even replacing all the electrical wall mount boxes etc.

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There are piles of stuff everywhere in the house, boxes and bags of glasses, food, pots etc......

We have made a temporary kitchen in the "Green Room" which of course I did the year before last....

Very cute says Nicola.

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Let me know if I should continue with this thread .
Last edited by grizz on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Unemployed? My wife keeps me busy alright.

Postby mikeschn » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:35 am

Since I redid my kitchen about 12 years ago, there is no immediate threat that my wife will want me to redo it any time soon. So yea, bring it on! :lol:

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Re: Unemployed? My wife keeps me busy alright.

Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:39 am

mikeschn wrote:Since I redid my kitchen about 12 years ago, there is no immediate threat that my wife will want me to redo it any time soon. So yea, bring it on! :lol:

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Hi Mike,

Good to see you up....?

Hope you are well.

12.22 over here in England. Has to be 22min past stupid-o-clock where you are.

I will bring it on, the last few days worth of posts may come a bit fast.


PS: This is my third kitchen build in 6 years...... :?
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Re: Unemployed? My wife keeps me busy alright.

Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:43 am

It is going to be a painful build, because, being a 1921 build, there has been so many changes and bodges over time that I will now have to try to correct it all and deliver a result that we can live with for another 20 years or more.

OR UNTIL LORD FOSTERS BLOODY AIRPORT MEANS WE GET FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM HERE....... no idea what we will do then.

People have asked why not just a spruce up paint the units, and add new work tops?

The original idea was to strech the life out of the kitchen for a few more years by painting the dark wood out and all the panels on the walls to lighten it all up, but having lived here the last two years,fixing hinges, seeing gaps inbetween units, freezer door wonky, changing the cooker last year and having to create a bodged effect with tiles, as the originals are long since out of production led us to realise that now would be a good time to sort it all out.

I will see if I can find some pics of some of the other stuff I did in the last few years, just to give a better overall perspective.

WRT recycling...... and you all know I am out in front when it comes to re-purposing stuff......

My garage and the shed are both filled to the brim, and maxed out with units I have brought here from elsewhere or inherited from the previous owner, so I won't be using anything except one small shelving unit thats above the dishwasher and a single 400mm unit that is in the corner.

Mickey my neighbout is having the 4 large door units with integrated fridge and freezer for his garage.
The rest of the doors and drawer fronts will go on Ebay for a week as a joblot as it is solid Oak and if not sold for £10-20, then Freecycle once, the chopped up for the winter woodpile.
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Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:49 am

I have COPIED & PASTED a shortened write up of the kitchen I built in January 2006 at my old house.


Here is a brief photo essay of my holiday.....

Stripped all the fecking wallpaper off, and painted the house, and on the 1st of Jan, gutted the whole kitchen, was 35 years old (the kitchen you curse word :ljl: )

This is just a bunch of pics, hope the end result carries away some of your approval.

Maverick came and helped me screw together some of the units, and the spade you see me with , was the easiest way to remove old tiles from the wall with.

I made the first dinner on the stove tonight...... MMMMMMmmmmm...

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The new colour I did the lounge, planned along with the new carpet that I am witing for, and then some leather furniture.

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Tile removal the easy way.......

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Multi tasking at its best....

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Amazingly, THIS is the kitchen :unsure:

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Maverick,tired of screwing around....

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Missing door, eventually delivered and hung.


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Tiling in progress...... grout done, just last wash to do.

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Finished !!!!!!

At Midnight last night......

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Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:51 am

Right.....

Many of you will remember the next cut and paste... I have been hurried along on another site for some more pics or story telling.

I am still busy with removing units, disentangling wires and under unit lights etc......

The is a job I did at Nicola's old house before we got married and came here.

April 2009..... Easter.

Well, rolling credits first....
Hope no one here works for B&Q , because after this week I am convinced it stands for Brainsurgeons and QuantumPhysicists.

Had to go back 6 times, to get bits, buy more carcasses, and then also to buy stuff they had delivered incorrectly, which had me driving to Strood to fetch, as they did not have stock.... that was a 110 minute trip in its own. Every trip to the Gillingham branch took an average of 50 minutes.

The carcass I had to buy had no holes drilled for the feet to fit in, so I had to cut the feet with a jigsaw (Pretty stupid ehh ? ) The holes for dowels were not drilled etc.


I had taken 4 days leave the past week to do this job.... thinking that it would leave us a weekend free to do whatever the weather permitted.

Anyway,
Before it ends up as a fully fledged whinge.

Nicola bought the house 18 months ago, knowing it needed some work, but possibly not realising what bodges had been done in the past. I soon found out.

OK: Forgot to mention, the tiles had to stay, because she likes them, even though I had offered to retile for her, which is something I am pretty good at.

A few months ago her kitchen sink drain again blocked, and overflow was into the cupboard.... we also realised that this was not the first time , as wood was swollen etc.... so decided to gut half the kitchen and reskin etc the rest to keep costs down.

The moment I started to do what I thought was a quick screw one off, and screw a new door on, I realised the hinge holes were not the same as when the original units were done......

I had to close every small hole with a match stick whittled to size, then cut off ans wood glued into place, after which I could mark out the new positions and drill them.
Once the hinges were on the doors, the carcass mounting holes differed as well, at least here I could use the topmost and bottom holes, and needed to only drill two more holes, of a different size to the first 4. So a quick job this was not going to be.


Based on doing my own kitchen a few years ago:

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Kitchen as it was.

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Hole plugging.
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Some of the doors came damged like this.... I actually fitted it as 50 minutes per return trip got to me in the end.
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Building some of the new carcasses
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5 days of chaos, lucky the kids were in Italy (Earthquake zone) and Amsterdam (Perfecty for a 17 year old girl and her ex-boyfriend)

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More incorrectly holed units...
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All this got ripped out and replaced too.
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Measure twice, cut once....?

Not me ;D and of course I did cock it up, lucky in a way I could fix easily.
Had Sam, the neighbours son helping at this point as the worktops were too much for me to handle alone... bastards are heavy.
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Almost there...

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Done !!

Note the before and after, not much difference, but 5 days of my life gone and a few more grey hairs on my head.

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To....

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Greetings from England.

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Re: Unemployed? My wife keeps me busy alright.

Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:26 am

When we bought this house in 2010 we paid £25k less than the asking price as it had been based on the owner replacing the kitchen.

We chose to live with the kitchen as it was for 5-6 years, maybe giving the dark oak a make over with some cream/beige paint.

My last contract job ended in September after which I went for a ride through Europe with good mate Goose (Peter) on our motorcycles.

The job market is a bit slow in my game at the moment so Nicola decided that stripping out the kitchen right back to tiles, lights and power sockets would be a good thing, keeping me busy and saving on installation costs.

We had known what style we wanted for some time as the house is a typical 1920's build, so the next job was to start getting things going.

We had designers from various kitchen companies over to draw up plans and make suggestions on Farmhouse kitchen designs.

Eventually we decided that the "Cook & Lewis" range from B&Q was what we wanted.

The initial quote we got was quite steep, so we came home and Nicola started Googling and Ebay hunting.

I also took the plans and inventory and started deleting about £600's worth of stuff that had been part of the quote, but what I knew from past experience to be unnecessary. Things like bolts, various glues, colour resins etc.... even an E-Cloth for almost £10.... what happened to using an old T-shirt to wipe surfaces ?

We had decided to go for B&Q's Cooke & Lewis Hedingham Solid Oak kitchen.

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However, neither of us could find a work top we liked. I had tried about 7 different samples on the display kitchen in the shop, with nothing striking the right note.

One of the shops we had gone to, and got the designer to come out to us from was Homebase.
Nicola and I went to see their display kitchens and then she saw the worktops she wanted in their display.

"Bella Noche" it was and would be, come hell or high water.

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So when the B&Q quote came in at £405.00 for 3 x 3000mm lengths, it was Ebay and Google to the rescue. Ultimately we ordered the same items from an Ebay shop for a total of £210.00 delivered.

Door handles and knobs were again an item that was stupidly priced but sourced online for a lot less and when approached, the seller agreed to give us FREE POSTAGE.

While we were in Homebase for our first consult, we saw a kitchen sink that we had wanted on offer...... someone had ordered it, and then either not collected or refused it. However, the item was correct and the price had been knocked from £99.00 down to £25.00 so of course we bought it.

With the taps we had a similar experience, we chose the taps we wanted and when we got to the checkout lady luck was smiling on our wallet..... 50% price reduction.

We found some really nice 100 mm x 100 mm tiles at Vegas Tiles on one of the local industrial estates.....as most places had silly prices on smaller tiles. Getting exactly what she wanted meant that I was allowed to come home via MacDonalds and have a coffee there.

Another bit of advice I am happy to give on this build thread is to say that if you know, or can find someone with a "Trade Card" to see if they will let you use it..... it costs them nothing, but will nett you a significant real world saving on all costs.

In my case, it was a weird connection that got me the use of a Trade card.

My neighbour Mickey does office clearances and sometimes they are where the courts are involved and businesses are shut down, other times they just get the order to clear the space, destroy everything and get paid for taking stuff to the recycling dumps.
In this case, he had scored about 80 Blackberry phones a while ago, some older models and some like the Storm models from a marketing company that had gone bust.
I bought three off him, got a battery and charger off Ebay for the storm and sent it to South Africa.
The other two were meant to be for Tom our son and Gooses on here who had too many phones already.
At a fiver a phone it was not exactly a train smash when Tom said it was not cool enough and Goose refused one, I just popped them on a couple of boards and in minutes they were off at £5.00 each. One was posted and the other was bought by Mr Mucky Helmet of this here parish. He fetched it a few days later and offered me his Trade card that saved us about £1500.00 Needless to say, I could not take his fiver ....... Thanks David.

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All of these savings add up and ultimately means you can get more for your money.


While we were redoing the kitchen, we decided to completely change the layout as well as the existing layout was not very sensibly done.... this would mean we were going to replace the integrated Fridge/Feezer units with an American style side by side free standing unit.

Again, Nicola dug around and after finding what we wanted (I refused to have an ice maker or cold water dispenser) online, she also got an extra 10% off voucher online..... I love this girl.

After making our final tweaks I went back to B&Q on the bike and managed to spend 2hr 45 minutes there.....

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I had done my own measuring up and found that there was 200mm missing in the calculations that the designer/consultant had made so I challenged him, at first he did not get the fact that one part of his design only added up to 3500mm but I had found from the wall to the side of the cooker/stove there was 3700mm
We then redesigned the kitchen and also removed some of the stuff that was on the original plan.

Regular delivery was quoted at 5-6 weeks from payment and order.

HOWEVER....With the Trade card..... delivery was going to be 6 days.

Added to that, (Seeing will be believing) at a slight reduction in cost vs all flat pack delivery.... the Trade card would see some or all of the carcasses being delivered built up, so assembly, doors, fitting etc still has to be done, but that will save me at least a day on this build.

Now waiting for various deliveries, starting with the work tops coming from Hull tomorrow and the big Orange truck doing its delivery on Thursday.

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Today's work and progress to uploaded in a bit.

Trust you are still reading.

This write up has taken me almost an hour to do.
Greetings from England.

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Re: Unemployed? My wife keeps me busy alright.

Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:15 am

OK.... Here goes.



After the kitchen we "only" have Tom's and our bedroom carpets to redo..... they were done about 20 years ago as well, and were thankfully good quality, albeit very bland and too light.

The biggest problem will be that there is sooo much furniture and tut in both rooms, one cannot really empty them completely. Items like a 3 and 2 door wardrobe, 3 chests of drawers and the linnen chest that Seth gave me from his mums home.... King size bed, and bedside units in our room, and Tom also has a double bed as he is well over 6 foot at 17 (the 13th October) and various other tut in his room.
It will be done, but we need to scrape together the courage to dismantle the rooms and move furniture about.

I will have to get an electrician to do the plugs, lights etc for me as I have been banned from it as it is insurance voiding if I do it myself..... the plumbing should be worth giving a go.... surely just stopcocks etc ?

Everything else I am either capable of or confident to give a go.

Watch this space




After emptying out the kitchen units (Nicola did most of that as it is a "PINK JOB" ) I could start moving stuff out, microwave, chairs etc...... amazing how much stuff there is to move out. Moving fridge contents into a small undercounter size fridge, also moving most of the contents of the freezer down to the small freebie undercounter freezer in the garage..... it takes time and planning.

So yesterday I then started to get my "ducks in a row" to have the right tools, chargers for cordless drills, a hammer etc together and started to dismantle the kitchen in what seemed a sensible and logical way.

I had planned to sell the solid oak doors on Ebay, but the faff of removing them etc has made me decide to just "Freecycle" them to anyone that may have use for them..... there is also a Job lot of Victorian etc kitchen and other tiles in the garage looking for a good home. Collection only if you know anyone who wants them, PM me.

ANYONE ??



Right, the rest was time consuming and boring BUT exposed a myriad of horrors that I will have to sort out or fix along the way. Nobody said it was gonna be easy.

Firstly removed the doors and integrated fridge and freezer units, they are being moved to Mickey next doors garage. Thankfully.

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Nothing like the right tool for the job and time delay on a camera for self portraits ;D

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We had planned to remove and sell on or Freecycle the dishwasher too so that that could be replaced with an integrated unit, the only integrated appliance we want in the kitchen. (as I hate bloody dishwashers, I prefer oldskool washing up.)
However, the Womble and Non-waster in me convinced Nicola that we buy the door for the integrated unit, but to use the dishwasher until it explodes or expires. After all, she is the girl who has on occasion encouraged me to wash car parts in the dish washer.....Gotta love a sensible woman !!

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Being built in 1921 the house did not benefit from dampcourse waterproofing etc, so when I removed these corner units, this is what I found below.

Thankfully, Gary the previous owner had the whole house's walls drilled and silicone pressure impregnated again, about 20 years ago when the extension was added..... I then had the job redone last year before I painted the outside, as I knew the job carried a 25 year guarantee. There is no damp to be smelled or picked up with probes and sensors, so I believe this mess is from some time before.

I will still scrub and then seal the inside, followed by paint in my usual belt and braces way.

In the corner you can also see the water mains tap..... absolutely mad, I know. And, no.... not going to get it re-sited, not sire where to it would move and how many evils you may then unearth.

EVIL !!!!

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Progressing.

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This is where I ended up last night, as I did not want to remove the kitchen sink yet, and have to wait for Mickey to come and help me remove the kitchen carcasses for the fridge freezer units. They are quite fragile and after so many years, would damage the joins etc if I moved them out alone with brute force.

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One of the interesting finds while dismantling the kitchen was these tiles......

Can you see what happened here yet ?

Yep.... tiles on top of tiles.

I suppose technically you can do that, but it has added another interesting fascet to the electrical job or renewing all the plugs and switches.... as everything will now need to be recessed another 8-10 mm

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I will do another quick entry in a bit to show the proposed kitchen plans.

Time for a cuppa tea now.

Worktops are being delivered this morning... WOOOT !!!


I also have an appointment with a job advisor today to tell me how to find another job.
Greetings from England.

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Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:19 am

Quick update with some pics of th design we decided on in the end.

Lets see if you guys can figure out the changes from the old kitchen.

We are hoping to get a more useable and practical kitchen out of it.

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These two plans are to slightly different scale, so do not get caught out.

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Two more deliveries today as well.

Handles..... these guys are incredibly well priced and have a large selection.

Speedy service too.

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Always a few knobs too....

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And of course the three worktops landed at 10.30 as well.

Once again, service with a smile, and madly competitive prices.

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Bella Noche.

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Trust those of you that are still reading are enjoying my pain.....????

More updating tomorrow.
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Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:22 am

Last few pics for today.

While removing some of the units, the colour we bought the kitchen fitted with came out again.
Eye scorching to say the least.


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Found a rat.....

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Last pic, the fridge wil be fitted on the right under the staircase ceiling.

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Have found some really nice spotlights for the kitchen as well, will be off to fetch them first thing tomorrow as the electrician is here at 12.30 to let me know just how much he is going to cost me.
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Postby mikeschn » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:29 pm

When the pain gets too severe, buy more Stella Artois! :lol:

Your kitchen is full of surprises!

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Postby Greg M » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:49 pm

You know what's going to happen now don't you? You'll be half way through and the phone's gonna start ringing with job offers. Happens whenever you don't want work for a bit:)

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Postby S. Heisley » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:52 pm

The whole process leaves me stunned. That old yellow paint....glad you painted over that! That water damage...OMG! What a lot of work it all is!!!!

On the plus side, you've bought yourselves some beautiful counter tops. :thumbsup:
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Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:43 pm

Knackered tonight......

Stripped back the tiles today..... ended up with bits of plaster coming off etc.

Called Glen, our usual plasterer at 2pm today.... Could he come in soon to just smooth the mess I had to make out of the walls in order to get the tiles off ? "When do you need me mate ?" he asked. I said in about two minute, which had him laughing.
We agreed on him calling me first thing in the morning, popping over and plastering and then going off to his day job. SORTED !!

Had the electrician in as well today to look at the kitchen electrics..... fitting the new lights, making safe and renewing some of the switches and plugs as well as removing some of the bodgework. His job will be an added £180.00 because I am not allowed to work on the electrics.


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I had two pipes to deal with running vertically down from the boiler..... plan was to box them and the electric plug in, but that makes for more work, and also breaks the smooth flow of the tiles.. So I addressed the one pipe by rerouting it out the house and the copper pipe will be painted to match the colour of the tiles.

The rerouting proved to be slightly tricky as the only long masonry drills I have maxxed out at 12mm and I needed a 25mm or one inch drill to make it work.

So I called Tony the builder who lives up at no 1 rather than get the bike out and ride to B&Q to buy a large drill bit in 300mm length to get the hole through the kitchen wall to the outside. Yes, he did have a Makita and 25mm bit, he was working up on the farm, across from the Church house and graveyard.
So I walked the mile up to the farm, which allowed the bonding liquid that I had painted on where the tiles were before, which will allow Glen to come in and plaster straight onto it.

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What an amazing tool.... went through the wall like a hot knife through butter.

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Drainage pipe under the boiler re-routed

Also note the loose hanging plug box, been like that all a long time it seems. All this is being tidied up by the electrician.

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Removed the kitchen sink last, after everything was tidied up.

Moved the dish washer and found another home...... and the deceased nearby.


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Deceased on right side of picture.

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Lastly, this is pretty much what our kitchen has turned into...... a pile of fire wood.


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Hope the watchers are still awake.
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Postby grizz » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:44 pm

I had the same questions from some other sites I play on.

The sink does not HAVE to be centered. So we moved it to the left so that the space to the right of it is enlarged by about 300mm which makes the space where the kettle and breadbin and cutting board live, bigger. The area is used for vegetable and food preparation as it is 1.8m from the rubbish bin which is tucked in next to the side of the American style side by side free standing fridge freezer we have bought. It concentrates most of the food prep to one side of the kitchen.

If you look on the plans, there is a wall where there is only a double door glass fronted cabinet. This is where our extendable 6-8 seater kitchen table lives. It gets moved central when we want to entertain groups. So keeping that side of the kitchen more clear of work stations works for us. We have lived here just over 2 years and made sure we analysed the useage paterns in there to maximize it for ourselves. The plan is to retire in this house, so we only need to please ourselves. The fridge/freezer will live on the wall to the right of the sink which is also under part of the angled ceiling for the stairs going up.

It may look wrong, and for someone like me who likes symetry it is wrong, but it works so will be staying that way.

If I could be bothered to move the gas and extractor exit in the wall, I would move the cooker over by 2-3 foot..... but cost and hassle means I will not be doing it. We also like the splashback so another reason not to move it all.


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