5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby RunnerDuck » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:12 pm

I ordered my axle some time ago and I too agonized over it for a long time. They are a lot of money and can't be returned. It turned out perfect and I have plenty of clearance.

The image you tried to post did not come through. Maybe you could try again.

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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby rockinrukes1 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:07 am

thanks for the help on this axel thing....I do not currently have the mental technology to resize my photos ...so until Girlfriend from Seattle comes to visit next week Im stuck darn it but like I was saying there is the one that she did upload for me as an attachment on my "newbies introduce yourselves" spot If you want to check it out its called 10x 5 build on Lopez Island thanks Rick
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby RunnerDuck » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:49 am

Hi Rick,

I just checked out your Newbie post and it's looking good. You're much further ahead than I am. I'm taking a much more difficult route on the walls but I'm a glutton for punishment :R

I look forward to following your progress.
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby Gunguy05 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:46 pm

RunnerDuck wrote:I ordered my axle some time ago and I too agonized over it for a long time. They are a lot of money and can't be returned. It turned out perfect and I have plenty of clearance.

The image you tried to post did not come through. Maybe you could try again.

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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby RunnerDuck » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:36 pm

Nope, sorry :(
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of Day 13

Postby RunnerDuck » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:11 pm

Another few days to get to day 13 but I have been busy. I've been working on the core for the walls. I'm making them out of 1X hemlock and my first step is to rough-cut the end curves for both ends.

Here are a series of photos from that process. I haven't seen others quite do it like this but it has worked out pretty good.

This will take a couple of posts because I have more photos than will fit on one post. There seems to be a limit and I haven't figured out how to add more.

First I laid out the wood and cut the angles to form the curve.

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Next I cut biscuit joints into each end of each piece.

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Next I hot melt glued cauls onto each piece about 1 1/2" from each end.

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Ok, onto the next post!
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of Day 13 Continued

Postby RunnerDuck » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:18 pm

Then I glued and installed the biscuits into the joints.

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Next I clamped the joints together, one at a time, squeezing the cauls together on both sides and clamping the joint from both ends to make sure it stayed flat while it dried.

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Here's one of the ends with all the pieces glued together with the cauls still on.

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Moving along to the next post.
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of Day 13 Continued

Postby RunnerDuck » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:22 pm

I knocked off the cauls with a mallet.

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Once they were removed it was fairly easy to remove any remaining adhesive with a sharp chisel.

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In the end I had some nice rough-cut pieces for the ends of the cores for both walls.

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Next I will build up the rest of the core and glue it all together before I cut it to the shape of the walls.

It's been a good few days and moving on.

Stay tuned.
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby tony.latham » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:33 pm

I'm liking those hot-glued caules.

Learning new stuff. :thumbsup:

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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby KCStudly » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:11 pm

I made my hatch ribs using a similar, but easier, mitered biscuit joint clamping technique shown here: http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?p=937174#p937174. For my technique it helps if the miter angles bisect the joint angle.

Either way, you are doing good work there. :thumbsup:
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby RunnerDuck » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:32 am

Thanks for the replies.

KC, I like your technique as well. I do like having clamps on both ends of the joint to hold the boards flush to one another since the biscuits have some "float" to them.

Either way it looks like you ended up with a nice TD and I'm on my way. :D
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby Vedette » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:09 pm

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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby halfdome, Danny » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:26 pm

When I need to clamp boards together like you have done I use pinch dogs.
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of Day 14

Postby RunnerDuck » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:02 pm

I'm making some good progress on the cores for the walls. I have one glued up and rough trimmed to my pattern. The other one is laid out and ready to glue.

I know it doesn't seem like much for several days work but a real milestone for me.

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Sorry the photos aren't very good but I have a very tiny shop and that's as good as I could do without taking them outdoors for a photo op! :pictures:

Stay Tuned,
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Re: 5' X 10' Grumman 2 Sort Of

Postby KCStudly » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:34 pm

Yippee, a major milestone achieved! Congratulations. :thumbsup:

There are no rules here (except to have fun) so any time that you can sit back and admire your own work and achievement is a milestone in my book. 8)

I've lost track, is this the first time you've seen your profile full scale standing up? If so, double whoop whoop. :beer:
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