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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby S. Heisley » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:39 pm

...Looking really, really good!!! :thumbsup:
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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby citylights » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:48 pm

When I thought about an aluminum skin for the teardrop, I thought about big flat sheets of aluminum and a couple pieces of trim.

Hmmm, now I know that is backwards. A couple of big flat sheets and HUNDREDS of pieces of trim!

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This is a 6 inch piece of trim that didn't make it. Saw tooth caught it wrong and turned it into a projectile. This is what it looked like after bouncing off the wall behind my head. No wonder why I wear safety glasses when cutting this stuff.

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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby S. Heisley » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:46 pm

:frightened: That could've been a big owwwie! Stay safe!
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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby aggie79 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:19 am

Fantastic work on your teardrop! :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup:

S. Heisley wrote::frightened: That could've been a big owwwie! Stay safe!


+1 on what Sharon said! Stay safe.

If you're cutting the trim in a miter saw, you probably should make a vertical auxiliary fence out of scrap wood. When cutting aluminum angle I also use a scrap block of wood to place the angle upside down with one leg pointing down and the other leg pointing toward the auxiliary fence. This way the angle is captured (for the most part).
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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby citylights » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:22 pm

Finished up the tongue box and AC hatch. Weather stripped and latched.

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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby rebapuck » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:27 pm

That looks so cool. I think you should name it "The Cooler".
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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby drewh1 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:31 pm

Man, you are a pro with that aluminum and trim. I know who I am going to when I am ready to start my aluminum work.

Nice work


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Re: Citylights' Tear

Postby citylights » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:51 pm

rebapuck wrote:That looks so cool. I think you should name it "The Cooler".


Thanks! I have been trying to think of a good name since I started but had not come up with anything. I really like "the Cooler".
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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby citylights » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:29 pm

Got a bunch more done this weekend, but only one picture. It is a biggie though, something I have been worried about for a while. Making my hatch fit my side wall.

I over cut my sidewall, so. Ended up with about a 1 inch gap between my hatch and sidewall. I looked for hatch trim that would cover the gap, I even bought some two inch aluminum angle, but anything with over 1 inch "leg" is really tough to bend!

I ended up splitting the difference. I added 1/2 inch to my sidewall. Two, 1/4 inch pieces of plywood glued on, then my sidewall trim is 1 inch angle ripped down to 3/4 leg to make it bend better. That makes 1/4 inch overlap with my sidewall aluminum. So now my gap between sidewall and hatch is only 1/2 inch, perfect for some liberal gasket material.

I used some wide lip RV roof edge molding from Grant, little bear, tear parts supply. That has about 1/2 inch leg. With liberal use if a rubber mallet to fine tune things, my hatch now mates with my sidewalls.

I am not thrilled about the small wrinkles in the aluminum side bends, anybody have a suggestion to fix?

I also finished my other door too, but I didn't get any pictures. It looks the same as the first, but with a little tighter fit. I learned how to work the aluminum a little better between the time I did the first and second door!

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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby atahoekid » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:39 pm

That aluminum work is looking great. What kind of aluminum did you use? Did you use standard (Big Orange) aluminum flashing or did you buy specific aluminum for the trim pieces? Making plans for the next one, potentially for a neighbor (for cash!!!) I'd like to be able to try aluminum if they'll go for it.
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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby citylights » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:07 am

For the door trim T molding, tear edge trim, and galley edge trim (all specialty molding, not available locally) I ordered from Grant at little bear teardrop supply. I didn't look very hard, maybe the nearest RV supply could have ordered it. Grant isn't the cheapest, but it worked great.

For the flat aluminum, 1 and 2 inch angle, and flat strap, I got from a local steel supply store. They were very helpful, had 4x10 sheets of aluminum in stock. They have a surprising amount of aluminum in stock and can order just about anything delivered in 24 hours. I was looking at ordering some specialty C channel there for my side walls at galley, but ended up using 2 pieces of 1 inch aluminum angle instead. I used 0.04 thick 5052 sheet and 6061 aluminum angle.

Stainless screws, stainless hinges, and other miscellaneous hardware, I got from the local lowes and Home Depot.

Oh, and if you are going to skin in aluminum, you are going to need bunches of 3/4 inch butyl tape. That is the water stop seal under every piece of trim... I ordered about 120 feet of that from Amazon because the big box stores near me don't carry it.
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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby aggie79 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:33 am

Looking really nice! And you'll have a worry free finish too.

citylights wrote:I am not thrilled about the small wrinkles in the aluminum side bends, anybody have a suggestion to fix?


I had the same situation on some of the tighter radii on my trim. What I did was use a dead blow hammer and a block of wood to smooth out the wrinkles. http://www.harborfreight.com/4-lb-neon-orange-dead-blow-hammer-41800.html The dead blow hammer transmits all of the forces rather than bouncing off like a rubber hammer. Hold the block of wood flat on the trim. Then hit it with the dead blow hammer. Be careful that the block of wood doesn't rest on your aluminum sheeting or it will leave a mark. Not all of the puckers and wrinkles will go away, but you'll get most of them.

citylights wrote:Oh, and if you are going to skin in aluminum, you are going to need bunches of 3/4 inch butyl tape. That is the water stop seal under every piece of trim... I ordered about 120 feet of that from Amazon because the big box stores near me don't carry it.


The butyl tape is traditional and works well; however, its thickness can sometimes be a fight. Except for around my windows, I used adhesive sealant instead of butyl tape.

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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby citylights » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:49 pm

The butyl tape is traditional and works well; however, its thickness can sometimes be a fight. Except for around my windows, I used adhesive sealant instead of butyl tape.


I did notice that about the butyl tape. It is easier to apply and smooth out when it is sun warmed. They make a roller tool for thinning it out in place, but I didn't get the tool. My thumbs are getting tough from spreading it. I used adhesive sealant around my door trim where I was having trouble thinning out the butyl tape enough. The adhesive was definitely easier, I could have used that everywhere, but the butyl is time tested.

I figure, when my tear is done, I will let it bake in the sun, then hit all the trim screws one more time with the impact screw driver to give it the squeeze!
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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby citylights » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:47 pm

Tail lights cut and mounted.

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Re: Citylights' Tear - "The Cooler"

Postby stonykill » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:11 pm

looking sharp!
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