Towing, is a Teardrop even possible?

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Postby Melvin » Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:55 pm

Mauleskinner wrote:
Yota Bill wrote:There is also the legal aspect of the question to consider. Towing anything above the vehicles rated towing capacity is illegal. Enter at your own risk.

Not to argue, but do you have a statutory reference for that?


I'm a bit late to this party so please excuse the necro. Here is a link to a BC Ministry of Transportation and Highways FAQ. Question #16 addressess this issue. Specifically: [i]How big can my pick-up camper or RV trailer be on my ½, ¾, or 1 tonne pickup be?
[color=green]The camper, when loaded on to the pickup or when you tow a trailer behind the pickup, can not exceed the manufacturer “Gross Vehicle Weight Ratingâ€
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Postby McBrew » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:16 pm

Yota Bill wrote:There is also the legal aspect of the question to consider. Towing anything above the vehicles rated towing capacity is illegal. Enter at your own risk.

No, it is not.
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Postby LarryJ » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:30 am

Here is an answer from a nationally recognized specialist/author on towing (mainly boats).

http://www.trucktestdigest.com/TTDfeatureTrailerTowingIllegally.htm

Technically, it is illegal, even the above author doesn't understand why it isn't enforced. At the very minimum you will be held liable, which is probably a bigger deal than the illegal aspect.

EDIT: Another article by the same author:

http://www.dangeroustrailers.org/Towing_The_LIne.html
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Postby McBrew » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:47 am

LarryJ wrote:Here is an answer from a nationally recognized specialist/author on towing (mainly boats).

http://www.trucktestdigest.com/TTDfeatureTrailerTowingIllegally.htm

Technically, it is illegal, even the above author doesn't understand why it isn't enforced. At the very minimum you will be held liable, which is probably a bigger deal than the illegal aspect.

EDIT: Another article by the same author:

http://www.dangeroustrailers.org/Towing_The_LIne.html

There are a lot of things that are handled in a similar manner. For example: Carrying stuff in the back of a pickup. You can be well within the weight limits of your truck and be completely legal. However, you might not have your items secured properly, and they can fall out and cause an accident. You could be held legally responsible for such an event. In most states, towing seems to be handled the same way. As long as your trailer has proper lighting, brakes, etc. based onthe weight and size... then you are okay. IF something were to go wrong, then you could be (and should be) held legally responsible.

Towing limits in this country (up to now) are usually NOT based on any standardized testing. It looks like this is about to change, though. However, in many European countries, it is mandatory that car companies TEST their cars and issue a tow rating. Ironically, many of these tests are performed here in the USA! Yep, car companies like to take advantage of the varied weather and terrain here in the US, and many states make it easy for them to do vehicle testing here. I have seen towing tests that Volvo performs in Arizona.

There is no magical difference between the towing ability of cars in Europe vs. America. The physics do not change. There are little if any differences in the drive train and suspensions in most cases. And in the cases where there are differences, it is usually that there are smaller engines in the European models. My Outback is rated to tow 2,700 pounds in the US, but is rated to tow 4,000 pounds in the UK... with the SAME engine and transmission. My previous car had a 1,700 pound tow rating in the UK and ZERO tow rating in the US, even though the car had a bigger engine here. Before that, I had a VW with a 1,200 pound tow rating here and a 3,000 pound rating in Europe.

An important thing to realize is that the MANUFACTURER of the vehicle is doing the testing and applying the rating. Here in the US, the importer is lowering or completely dropping the rating... NOT the manufacturer.
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Postby bobhenry » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:15 am

Kansas is the ONLY state that has a halfway intelligent law on the books regarding braking performance of a combined tow/trailer combination.

"The combination must be able to safely stop within 40 feet at a speed of 20 MPH."

Sounds like a good self test to me !
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Postby parnold » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:40 am

bobhenry wrote:Kansas is the ONLY state that has a halfway intelligent law on the books regarding braking performance of a combined tow/trailer combination.

"The combination must be able to safely stop within 40 feet at a speed of 20 MPH."

Sounds like a good self test to me !


New Jersey has a similar specification, as well as an unbraked trailer cannot exceed 25% of the towing vehicles weight.
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Postby Scooter » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:38 pm

Can't never got a teardrop built. If you're so concerned about legality you probably shouldn't build a teardrop. Go with a "certified" manufacturer so you'll be protected against every possible eventuality...not least of which would be your own narrow thinking. My life isn't about what I can't do. It's about what I can do.
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Postby parnold » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:58 pm

Scooter wrote: My life isn't about what I can't do. It's about what I can do.


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