What is a T or TTT?

[droid_ca]

OK so now what about Vardo's

[grant whipp]

Interesting thread! This topic seems to come up on a semi-regulat basis, and as always, lots of opinions get voiced and some feelings get hurt. I don't think anyone actually intends to hurt those feelings, but it's bound to happen.

If you know me at all, you know that I am a rabid TEARDROP enthusiast, but I think that ALL camping trailers are cool, and if you are outside by the fire and exploring the great outdoors and being friendly & respectful to your neighbors, you will be more than welcome to come sit by our fire and share some lies and libations (non-alcolic, please), no matter what you are sheltered in.

I've got to hand it to Mike and all the Admins. who keep this Forum up & running ... it's a great place to gain & share knowledge of all sorts regarding building & using all manner of small (and not-so-small) trailers! I can tell you for a fact that it is NOT something I would want to tackle & handle! Sometimes I cringe when I see a new part of the Form go up that deals with something other than teardrops & tiny travel trailers, specifically, but then I have to remind myself what a great resource this forum is to anybody who wants to try to tackle building or restoring almost anything with wheels on it that you can occupy (no OWS puns, please ... ...!) ...!

If I had unlimited time & funds, I would dearly love to build a knock-off of a 40' Spartanette, but with a rear lift-gate & ramp so we could haul our B'ville car in and have a place to sleep & fix our meals out on the salt ... and I know that there are some folks on this forum who would be interested in following the build ... it's nice to know that IF that were ever to happen, I'd have a place, here, to share that build and ask advice when I needed it along the way. So, yeah ... ultimately, I have absolutely no problem with welcoming bigger builds & discussions on this Forum ... as long as Mike & the Admins. can handle the extra work, bring it on! Also, as long as all of us can play nicely together (if not, then pack up your attitude and leave at your earliest convenience, please!).

Something else that comes up right along with this topic, quite often, is the off-handed remark (or several) about how the original Teardrop Forum "imploded" as a result of it being exclusively for Teardrops. For the record, that's a matter of opinion and quite possibly personal bias ... nothing could be further from the truth. That Forum was running along quite nicely, and would be still were it not for the health (or more precisely, lack thereof) and tolerance (again, lack thereof) of the Forum owners (both of whom have, sadly, passed away). Unfortunately, a very small handful of members didn't like the long-established rules and decided to very publicly push the wrong buttons and things got ugly real fast. This Forum, as great & beneficial as it is, is a direct result of that ugliness ... say what you will, and some will say. There's lots more to that story, and it includes the death and resurrection of that Forum, and sadly it's ultimate demise (which, BTW, had nothing to do with its exclusivity). Bottom line is, somebody didn't like & couldn't abide by some rules, so they spun off and started their own Forum ... to the benefit of so many folks ... and the reality of it is that that happens all the time in all manner of interests & passions. So, please, don't go and get all PO'd or uppity because you don't like the "rules" of ANY particular Forum ... they are what they are, and if you don't like them, there are lots of other places you can go (or, you can just create your own!).

And, BTW, being exclusive in some things is not necessarily a bad thing ... it keeps you focused and motivated on a particular project or interest, and believe me, some of us need to stay focused as much as we can. For example, I'm into street rods as well as model trains, and while there are Forums that cater to all manner of cars and model trains, I stay to the ones that fit my particular interest - hot rodded pre-1949 cars & trucks (Land Speed Racing cars, too) and On30 scale model trains - and if I want info or discussion about anything else, I know where to go.

Again, I think Mike & Co. are doing a pretty damn good job satisfying the wants & needs of a lot of camping & trailering enthusiasts, and if they feel that it is beneficial to open this Forum up to bigger trailers (or even home-built or modified Motorhomes), then they should go ahead and do it ... in the end, we'll all be the better for it (those of us who care to be, that is). Let's all give 'em a big hand and thank them for their service ... ... and let them get back to providing you all with an amazingly vast amount of information, support, and enthusiasm!

IMHO ...

And, as always ...

CHEERS!

Grant

[Forrest747]

+1 Grant

[Gage]

Something else that comes up right along with this topic, quite often, is the off-handed remark (or several) about how the original Teardrop Forum "imploded" as a result of it being exclusively for Teardrops. For the record, that's a matter of opinion and quite possibly personal bias ... nothing could be further from the truth. That Forum was running along quite nicely, and would be still were it not for the health (or more precisely, lack thereof) and tolerance (again, lack thereof) of the Forum owners (both of whom have, sadly, passed away). Unfortunately, a very small handful of members didn't like the long-established rules and decided to very publicly push the wrong buttons and things got ugly real fast. This Forum, as great & beneficial as it is, is a direct result of that ugliness ... say what you will, and some will say. There's lots more to that story, and it includes the death and resurrection of that Forum, and sadly it's ultimate demise (which, BTW, had nothing to do with its exclusivity). Bottom line is, somebody didn't like & couldn't abide by some rules, so they spun off and started their own Forum ... to the benefit of so many folks ... and the reality of it is that that happens all the time in all manner of interests & passions. So, please, don't go and get all PO'd or uppity because you don't like the "rules" of ANY particular Forum ... they are what they are, and if you don't like them, there are lots of other places you can go (or, you can just create your own!).
IMHO ...
And, as always ...
CHEERS!
Grant

Thanks Grant, that needed to be said. I've wanted to bring that up but just couldn't figure out how to say it without getting my hand slapped.

[honeask]

Yikes, we bought, didn't build. Should there be a special section for us? I've met some teardroppers on two separate occasions and if they have held a purchased trailer against us we can't tell it and I hope I never do.

[Oldragbaggers]

Yikes, we bought, didn't build. Should there be a special section for us? I've met some teardroppers on two separate occasions and if they have held a purchased trailer against us we can't tell it and I hope I never do.

Sandy, you're more at home here than a lot of us. You actually HAVE a teardrop, and are out having fun in it. Who could possibly belong more than you!!??

+2 what Grant said:thumbsup:

I'm building a teardrop, and I love it and I'm so very excited about getting out there and TEARDROPPING, but I read pretty much everything for future ideas. Great ideas come from all different kind of places and builds, lately from a CT to toyhauler converson, and from Andrews new Wanderer design, and from the 24' conversion and from the foam/luan sandwich thread and.......well, you get the idea.

Keep it ALL coming!!

[Gage]

Yikes, we bought, didn't build. Should there be a special section for us? I've met some teardroppers on two separate occasions and if they have held a purchased trailer against us we can't tell it and I hope I never do.

There will be more than just you Sandy. I bought all my trailers. Even my Scotsman Tear which I had to reconstruct.

[parnold]

I enjoy pretty much everything about this forum, and if a topic doesn't interest me, I don't read it. I think the diversity is great.

Just sayin'

[jstrubberg]

If it ain't the way you think things outta be done...don't do it that way!

I haven't seen a build here that I didn't take some ideas away from, even if I would never build the same trailer.

I like tents, but I don't have to dislike RV's in order to like tents.

[Gage]

The way this discussion is going just goes to show you that board members today don't read the first question that started this thread. Well here it is again for those who only read the last post.

Just curious as to what size limit there is on a tiny travel trailer. I have a pretty good idea what is a teardrop although there are some differing opinions, but when there is a thread about converting a 24' travel trailer into a toy hauler I think we have have too far. This is definitely not a tiny travel trailer. I think the moderators should come to some agreement about what is the maximum size for a trailer to be included in the forum and to delete those threads which do not conform to the philosophy of T & TTT.
Jerome

[grant whipp]

Thanks Grant ... I've wanted to bring that up but just couldn't figure out how to say it without getting my hand slapped.

Not a problem, Gage (and/or anybody else who might feel the same)!

See ... I really do do more here than try to sell parts and harp on folks to send me their Gathering info so I can post it on my DESTINATIONS! Page ...

(inside joke)

[parnold]

10 foot 9 1/4 inches means it is no longer a tiny trailer. That is at least until I build one longer than 10 foot 9 inches.

[Roly Nelson]

I built an 8 foot woody, and was accepted into the fold. Next came the 6 foot stacker, which was greeted with questioning eyes and welcome smiles. Now I hope to continue enjoying the companionship of fellow TD and TTT folks with my levitating 3 ft by 3 ft cramped-but-cozy, bundle of comfort. The only way I can miniaturize more, would be to sleep on the ground and rest my head on the hitch-ball. Does size matter, I think not. Ostracism stinks. (Oh oh, is that really a word?)

Hey, if you enjoy camping and sharing thoughts and ideas around the campfire, the size of your rig doesn't concern me at all. However if you prefer to extend the slide-outs, close the drapes, crank up the satellite receiver, watch the HD wide screen and never set foot on the ground or even acknowledge the existence of fellow campers, I think camping in your driveway would have been a better choice, since it requires less preparation and is a whole lot cheaper.
Roly, just hoping we can all be friends, big rig or small. Long live TDs, TTTs and this wonderful, all encompassing forum.

[Oldragbaggers]

The way this discussion is going just goes to show you that board members today don't read the first question that started this thread. Well here it is again for those who only read the last post.

Just curious as to what size limit there is on a tiny travel trailer. I have a pretty good idea what is a teardrop although there are some differing opinions, but when there is a thread about converting a 24' travel trailer into a toy hauler I think we have have too far. This is definitely not a tiny travel trailer. I think the moderators should come to some agreement about what is the maximum size for a trailer to be included in the forum and to delete those threads which do not conform to the philosophy of T & TTT.
Jerome

No offense intended, Gage, but I don't think I get the meaning of your post here. The OP was asking what is a T or TTT because he was wondering at what point should a subject be out of bounds, inappropriate to post here, over the limit or not acceptable to the forum (i.e. 24' trailer conversion or 16'+ CT conversion, trailers with a potty or sit-down dining space or whatever) because it doesn't strictly fit the description of the name of the forum.

And I think the point most people here are trying to make with their responses is that big or small, bought, built or converted, of whatever material, they are interested in seeing ideas of ALL KINDS that might possibly appeal to people who like to build their trailers (or not), camp, gather to enjoy each other company and trade ideas and creativity.

Do any of us really want to miss out on a great idea or a new technique or idea for a new or unusual material, or getting to know a camping kindred spirit just because his or her trailer or build doesn't fit an arbitrary size limit?

Not that I disagree with the forum owners' right to do just that. I understand there are different forums for different purposes and interests, but it never occurred to me that this was that kind of forum, or that it's members interests were that narrow. It has seemed to me to be a forum with a specific "spirit" and all who were attracted to it were welcome.

[campmaster-k]

I understand both sides. What happens here is, I have seen it many times, folks post stuff that may not be a perfect fit because they want YOU to see it. They want YOU to see it because if you are a regular here YOU are a friend.

I try to keep my posts on the subjects of this forum. It is not easy. I have met many great people here and I find myself wanting to post about things that just wont fit.

The draw here is the collection of really good people. The best I have seen anywhere on the net. If you post about 24ft trailers here, personally, I probably wont read it. But, if you are one of the truley kind and helpful I have experienced at this forum please stick around .