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Skinning with FRP

Postby oldsloane » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:08 am

I have been experimenting with FRP which I am convinced would make a durable skin for my trailer. I glued a small piece to a 3/4" piece of fir plywood using ordinary yellow wood glue and so far it has sat out in direct sunlight (we are having a low 30 degree heat wave) for a few days with no detrimental effects. I have whacked it very hard with a ball peen hammer, shot it with a high power slingshot using a steel BB and tried to pry off the plastic with my hands. Every test has had a very positive outcome and other than some indecision about what glue to use I am convinced that it will make a very nice covering for my trailer. Any comments, suggestions, etc.?134326
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby M C Toyer » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:45 am

I used off the shelf 4' x 8' FRP from Home Depot with the pebble finish on my slide-in shell. I am well pleased with the appearance and ease of maintenance and, so far, the durability.

The FRP is bonded to the 5/8" plywood sidewalls with Tite Bond III and to the doors with contact cement. The sidewall is additionally secured by the outer window flange, The door edges are trimmed with C channel. I have not seen any oil canning or bubbles.

The FRP roof is laid over 1/8" Thermo Ply for maintaining the front radius. The Thermo Ply is laid over carpet to cushion the 3/4" EMT spars. The carpet and Thermo Ply are stapled along the top edge of the sidewall. The FRP is bonded to the Thermo Ply along the top edge of the sidewalls and laterally over each spar with medium duty VHB tape. The expansion rate of the Thermo Ply and FRP is essentially the same and the whole roof floats. The spars are spaced 12" on center

The FRP was stapled to the top edge of the sidewall. I have not gotten around to installing a trim piece yet but all is holding solid and watertight after several extended road trips in 100+ degree weather.

The single seam in the roof was made by overlapping the FRP 3 inches and sealing with the VHB tape. I placed the seam over a spar in case I need to reinforce later with rivets or screws but so far had no separation.

I would recommend scuff sanding the shiny back side of the FRP when using the glue and cement but not for the VHB tape.

This was a quick build to test the FRP for a future project but plan to use the same techniques except substituting the plywood for sandwiched rigid foam walls and rigid foam on the roof over and between the spars.

As for possible UV issues with the FRP I had planned to paint a darker shade of gray anyway.



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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby M C Toyer » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:06 am

Here are close-ups of the roof/sidewall joint:

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And a couple of construction shots:

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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby oldsloane » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:23 pm

Thanks for the pictures and info. I am still learning to navigate this site so I haven't posted many pictures yet. No time as I am busy building and planning!
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby oldsloane » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:36 pm

This is my project so far. I am having lots of fun with the design, I am sure it has changed about 100 times, I even dream about it!135170135171135172
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby M C Toyer » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:59 pm

Looks like you are well on your way.

I know about those dreams, especially when you wake up and run to the shop to check or change something.
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby dales133 » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:28 pm

Nice one
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby Caveman1970 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:36 am

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I also covered my teardrop in FRP from Lowes, inside and out. I had a test piece of the FRP left in direct sun for two years... nothing bad to report
after all that time in the sun rain and snow.
I do keep my teardrop garaged in the winter months, and covered outside when not in use. I am sure at this point this FRP will hold up fine if cared for, I recommend some ARMOR All after bath time, I purchased some "303 Areospace Protectant" from a local RV supply, its for plastic vinyl, rubber, leather, fiberglass, carbon fiber.... it has an SPF 40 rating. it was a $20 bill for 32 fl oz. I don't know that its any better than the Armor All.
Care for your FRP from those hardware stores and it should be kind to you for many, many years. (My 2 cents)
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby corymike756 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:17 am

M C Toyer wrote:I know about those dreams, especially when you wake up and run to the shop to check or change something.


Ayup, and then the wife gets mad when she comes looking for you 2 hours later because you are still messing around in the shop :lol:
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Re: Skinning with FRP

Postby razorback » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:18 am

Krylon Fusion paint, is designed for plastic. Once you have the fusion paint on you can go over it with any good outdoor latex. Fusion does not have many color choices in my area, so the wife preferred a different color. The two types of paint give plenty of protection from ultra violet rays which are not so good on FRP.
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