Ugh Major mistake on second wall

[Keith B]

Hey Danny... that Gorilla glue is crazy strong.... I laminated some wood together to make a teet-r-totter - well, I didn't understand it fully and I laid the wood on the floor to dry... YUP, you guessed it, the glue expanded and contacted the concrete..needless to say, I had chipped concrete by the end of the day. I've heard that since it uses moisture and air to cure it can actually dry wood out where it is contacted and potentially split at the ends.. have you experienced this? I guess my fright just made me stick with what I knew, which was Titebond - I need to play w/ Gorilla type stuff some more, seems to be pretty popular. OH and FYI: you're not missing Kansas today, we already reached our high of 5 degrees - it's criminal cold here.

[madjack]

Keith, we have used Gorillla Glue extensively and if used as directed, it is an excellent product...a note...while GG expands and will fill up a gap, the mechanical bond in that gap is not as strong as if you had used a construction adhesive which has a much better gap filling capability...
madjack

[Keith B]

Good to know - such great tips and advise on this site. The glues they have now a-days are amazing - my only problem with Gorilla glue was PURELY my own stupidity for not following and/or understanding it fully - I wasn't the best in science in my learning, but I'm sure glad someone's using it to make these awesome products - sure makes life easier for all of us.

[Et Cetera]

Don't think of it as a mistake. Think of it as one wall closer to a good start on a second teardrop.

[Keith B]

EXCELLENT THEORY!!!

[madjack]

...a tip for cleaning up the glue line when using GG...GG foams and will leave a hard to clean "foam" line when it sets up...to avoid this, about 15minutes after clamping, the foam should start showing up in a big way...keep a rag soaked with solvent and wipe the foam off before it sets...much easier than trying to scrape/sand it off latter.............
madjack

[halfdome, Danny]

Keith the main reason I keep Gorilla Glue around the shop is for exotic woods. I turned this segmented bowl out of Machiche & figured Maple to about 3/32" thick on the walls and after 4 years it's slightly deformed from wood movement but every glue joint is as tight as the day I turned it. Notice it’s real thin at the second lamination from the maple that light shows through. This bowl is kept in an unheated room and the Gorilla Glue has performed very well. Danny

[Keith B]

Well, it looks like I just need to get over the "fear" of my bad experience and give this stuff a whirl - especially knowing what it will do and the tips from you and madjack - and VERY AWESOME

[Lynn Coleman]

Don't think of it as a mistake. Think of it as one wall closer to a good start on a second teardrop.

Lynn

[Lynn Coleman]

Lynn, The reason for suggesting Gorilla glue is it's gap filling capabilities. I usually use any of the Titebond glues depending on what I'm dealing with. Danny

Thanks for the information Danny, I appreciate it.

Lynn, regardless of what kinda glue or patch you end up using, a spline, bisquits or pocket hole screws should be used as well
madjack

Thanks madjack. What are pocket hole screws, these are new to me.

Lynn

[Miriam C.]

Lynn,
This might give you a good idea.
http://www.rd.com/content/openContent.d ... ntId=17686

Enjoy

[dhazard]

Before using Gorilla Glue check out this warning. http://tnttt.com/viewto ... ght=danger

[Lynn Coleman]

Hi all,

Well we used the spine idea (Thanks Danny), gorilla glue for the width of the blade cut (thanks all) and Titebond III for the rest of the glueing. I've heard it said that we over build on our first trailer, we'll that may be but I'm still concerned with the idea of it falling apart the first time we take it down the highway, so, we'll overbuild, I hope.

The repair is done now we have to polish it up and finish it off. Below is a pic of a corner of the repair. It is the bottom wall and the other wall is sitting on top of it in this pic.

I'm sorry I forgot to take a picture of the actual repair but we need extra sets of hands to move these walls and I didn't think to get the camera first.

Thanks for all the help,
Paul & Lynn