A wall vs. trailer question.

[Miriam C.]

The Benroy looks like a mushroom gone wrong at 5' high and 8' long anyway. You can cover the trailer with extra trim if it bothers you.

If you keep a running tab of the wood you put in you will be able to keep the weight low.

Now go make sawdust

[Ira]

ok....you talked me out of 5' height.

I'll build it on top of the trailer instead, that is a good alternative.
I'd really like to keep it to 1000#'s or less. Who cares if you can see the trailer!

So...It will be the benroy with the 5x8 trailer, the 4 ft. height by 5 ft. wide by 8 ft. long.

Will this meet my weight requirements?

All in favor...............................????:thumbsup:



I know, I know , I know...it's my decision to make but I NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

I effin love this guy already.

Are you gonna get the Northern Tool 5 by 8? Or build out from a 4 by 8, like the inexpensive Harbor Freight?

So start here:

Find out the raw weights of both trailers.

[Model_A Bill]

Well Ira.....

Which ever one weighs less.
Which would you recommend?


btw, I love you too

[angib]

You guys work?

It's where they go to do the design, web research and forum participation for their teardrop, as far as I can tell......

Andrew

[Ira]

Well Ira.....

Which ever one weighs less.
Which would you recommend?


btw, I love you too

I would think the Northern Tool is more bang for the buck--plus, you wouldn't have to build out--it's already 5' wide. Plus, it's already put together. Plus, it's black, and not red. Plus, as Bob said, the axle is in a goodl position.

Do you have both NT and HF near you?

For a lot of folks, that really cuts down on your options.

[Ira]

You guys work?

It's where they go to do the design, web research and forum participation for their teardrop, as far as I can tell......

Andrew

You forgot searching the web for porn.

[Model_A Bill]

There is a HF near me but NOT a NF. I went to their website and I don't see a trailer there that is a 5x8. They list a 4x8 but the capacity I think was only 970 lbs. I don't think that that would be hevy duty enough but I could be wrong.

Is there another web site for NF???

For a lot of folks, that really cuts down on your options.

And why would this cut down on my options?

See what you guys started...I have soooooooooooooo many questions!

[martha24]

Bill,
It probably depends on if you're really tall, but we cut ours down by about 3 or 4 inches so it isn't even four feet high and isn't a problem at all and don't feel cramped in it either.
We started with the kit profile & modified it. Since our tires are 16 inches, that makes our trailer a little higher than some, it was making our trailer taller than I wanted it. I wanted it lower if possible than 5 feet from the ground, certainly not higher which is where it started.
Since you are going to be towing it with your model A, after you get your trailer, I would recommend cutting out a profile with a door cut out of the cheapest 1/4 inch material you can find. Temporarily put that up so you can see how it will look with you model A. If you figure out about how thick a mattress you want and when you sit on it figure it probably squishes to about 1/2 then you can figure out where the door should start. You can see how your head room is going. How easy or hard it is to get out of the door and other such things.
We decided to do this after we cut our first profile and there were things I didn't like about it. Plus with the 1/4 inch piece that is cut the way you like it, you have a great pattern to use for cutting out your real profile.
Also whatever trailer you get, if you are planning on using Model A wheels and fenders you will want to make sure it works with it. It also is a good idea put them in the mockup. Here's my mockup.

The more planning and figuring out you do ahead of time, the better off you will be in the end.
Just something to think about.
Martha

[Model_A Bill]

Thank you martha, that is good advice.

I like the fender you have there as well as the spoked wheel. That would probably be a very similar look as to what I want.

[Ira]

There is a HF near me but NOT a NF. I went to their website and I don't see a trailer there that is a 5x8. They list a 4x8 but the capacity I think was only 970 lbs. I don't think that that would be hevy duty enough but I could be wrong.

Is there another web site for NF???

For a lot of folks, that really cuts down on your options.

And why would this cut down on my options?

See what you guys started...I have soooooooooooooo many questions!

Just what you said:

HF doesn't sell a 5 by 8, and the 970lb. one you saw is probably the smaller one with 8" wheels. They sell a heavier one in-store that's 1175 (something like that), with 12" wheels. (That's the one a lot of us here have used, like me.) It's listed as a foldable model, and there are some mods you do (bolts and a piece of wood) to fix it for OUR use.

So like I said, since there isn't an NT near you, there goes that option, unles you're willing to make a long drive. And that long drive might be worth it.

But also note that the listed maximum load is for a bunch of crap piled in the middle of the trailer, like bricks. But 970 would still be okay for you--you want a TD who's TOTAL weight is under 1000 pounds, right? So what does its load capacity have to do with this anyway?

[bobhenry]

Thank you martha, that is good advice.

I like the fender you have there as well as the spoked wheel. That would probably be a very similar look as to what I want.

It's gonna be real tuff finding 4 lug wire wheels. Ya might want to rethink
about a custom frame with an axle that will accomidate the wire wheels.
Maybe you ought to approach this like building a house "from the ground up "

[Model_A Bill]

It's gonna be real tuff finding 4 lug wire wheels. Ya might want to rethink
about a custom frame with an axle that will accomidate the wire wheels.
Maybe you ought to approach this like building a house "from the ground up "

Your probably right BobHenry. Since there is no NT near me it might be a better option to build a trailer. I was looking at the link above trailer build and it looks like a simple streight forward build.

I have access to a welder, chop saw, and Ken (who is a great welder) at the shop we are building my model A at. The only thing in that tutorial is that it doesn't give any specs as to weight and tongue weight of the trailer. Would anyone know what that is?

Also....is there a way to research the cost of materials to build that trailer? It might be more cost effective to build it instead.

See Ira, I get one question answered and 3 more pop up. I got more for ya...see the next post

[Ira]

it might be a better option to build a trailer.

You got more balls than me, but why make it that difficult? Get the 4 by 8 HF and build out to 5 wide.

[Model_A Bill]

Ira

Are you talking about this one for example?????


http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... mber=90154

[martha24]

Bill,
Just a thought you might want to pm Jack J who posted in the newbie section and ask what sort of trailer frame or axle his friend with the Model '29A used. To some degree if you want to use your Model A wheels & fenders you have to build around those.
For our '35 Ford wheels, they came with the old trailer frame and we build on it.
Better to ask a thousand questions now and get everything clear in your mind, than to start out fast and discover the quick choices you made won't let you have the TD you wanted. So keep asking. I would say building a teardrop trailer is like putting a puzzle together & the more you understand all the different pieces the better off you'll be in the end.
Martha

Bill,



Is this what you are looking to end up with? This is a friend of mine that built his to pull behind his stock '29 A.