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Postby mikeschn » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:10 pm

a quick search on your name, or convict avatar should yield the thread that I read...

You got to admit, with an avatar like that, who can forget you.

Sorry to hear about the layoff.

I was laid off in Jan 2006. First time ever btw...

but there's work out there, as long as you are not in MI.

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Postby Chaotica » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:12 pm

mikeschn wrote:a quick search on your name, or convict avatar should yield the thread that I read...

You got to admit, with an avatar like that, who can forget you.

Sorry to hear about the layoff.

I was laid off in Jan 2006. First time ever btw...

but there's work out there, as long as you are not in MI.

Mike...


hmmmm......this might be interesting.

This is the first time I have ever been laid off too, I don't like the feeling.
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Postby SaGR » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:24 pm

Chaotica wrote:Glue the inner side of the outside ply and screw through the ply into the floor framing from the outside.


Ack! OK. Then we'd be drilling through the angle iron into the floor. I was hoping for a way around this to avoid more holes in the trailer frame.
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stay calm

Postby S.A.Mike » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:25 pm

Ed don't get too upset..stay calm don't do anything scary.. we all love you
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Postby mikeschn » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:27 pm

Ed, like Mike says, don't get upset... things will work out.

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Postby Chaotica » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:33 pm

Mike and Mike (hey, I like that :D ) I'm not too upset, things will work out in the end.

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Chaotica wrote:Glue the inner side of the outside ply and screw through the ply into the floor framing from the outside.


Ack! OK. Then we'd be drilling through the angle iron into the floor. I was hoping for a way around this to avoid more holes in the trailer frame.


Maybe we have a communication gap going, are you looking to bolt your floor or secure your sidewalls? Either way, I don't see a need for the 2x2's.
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Postby SaGR » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:13 pm

Secure the sidewalls.

The floor is down but I have to take up the floor bolts and countersink them for the wall to fit over it.

Securing the wall is an issue in my mind because I'm not really keen on drilling through the frame more than I have.

We based the build on a landscape trailer so the angle iron is "L" shaped instead of angled down. The floor is the exact height of the angle iron (sits flush with the top of it).

So the only way I'm seeing to attach the wall is to either build up the floor edge with the 2x2 at the bottom of the wall, or drill through the frame into the floor (which I'd like to avoid).

Crude drawing...

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Postby madjack » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:23 pm

use the 2x2 as a cleat to attach the wall...we use 1x1x1/16th aluminum angle as a cleat to attach the wall to the floor(glued and screwed) but we also run a few self tapping bolts thru the side wall into the steel frame(the wall comes down over the frame)
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Postby SaGR » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:42 am

OK, now a cleat makes sense. Dunno, why that never popped in my head! Well, I guess it did but I was thinking of it being in the wall not as an external cleat.

How many self tappers do you use on the side Jack?

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Postby SaGR » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:44 am

Visual representation of the idea - this way we're all on the same page.

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Postby riverfront » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:30 am

That is what MJ was talking about. You might want those screws or bolts flush too.

Looks like your on your way. Nice drawings and it says it all.

Good luck!
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Postby SaGR » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:37 am

Thanks Bruce. I like pictures :) We can all agree on something before my dumbazz goes and does something stupid! :? :lol:

They will be standard wood screws flushed/sunk.

The only self tapping screws I found for wood to metal (machine thread) are zinc, none in stainless. I'm thinking these should be OK since we're doing a woodie and they'll be encapsulated in epoxy. (?)

Also - how far apart should the self tappers be spaced? I'm thinking maybe 6 evenly spaced down the side should be more than enough. MJ?
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Postby Chaotica » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:39 pm

SaGR wrote:Secure the sidewalls.

The floor is down but I have to take up the floor bolts and countersink them for the wall to fit over it.

Securing the wall is an issue in my mind because I'm not really keen on drilling through the frame more than I have.

We based the build on a landscape trailer so the angle iron is "L" shaped instead of angled down. The floor is the exact height of the angle iron (sits flush with the top of it).

So the only way I'm seeing to attach the wall is to either build up the floor edge with the 2x2 at the bottom of the wall, or drill through the frame into the floor (which I'd like to avoid).

Crude drawing...

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Now it all makes sense.
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Postby riverfront » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:29 pm

SaGR - What Cad program do you use?
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Postby SaGR » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:15 pm

riverfront wrote:SaGR - What Cad program do you use?


LOL! None! I did that in Adobe Photoshop :lol:
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