Honda 4cyl tranny problem HELP

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Honda 4cyl tranny problem HELP

Postby oklahomajewel » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:56 pm

Okay... my 4 cyl Honda Accord , 196K , just today starting slipping badly, check engine light came on , then few minutes later the green light around the D on the shift indicator was flashing.
*#$&#
Checked fluid... looks clean, no specks, not dirty even. And not low.
Went to Autozone, they didn't get a specific read ... just transmission .

So we ( me and Kenny) went back to car and it was driving fine for a block or two , no slipping... then in the neighborhood started doing it again, ... then not , then again. *#$&#

So he's thinking maybe it's the control unit or the trans speed sensor.
I'm taking it to my trusty mechanic in the a.m. but give me your take on this.

Thanks !!!
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Re: Honda 4cyl tranny problem HELP

Postby starleen2 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:02 pm

oklahomajewel wrote:Okay... my 4 cyl Honda Accord , 196K , just today starting slipping badly, check engine light came on , then few minutes later the green light around the D on the shift indicator was flashing.
*#$&#
Checked fluid... looks clean, no specks, not dirty even. And not low.
Went to Autozone, they didn't get a specific read ... just transmission .

So we ( me and Kenny) went back to car and it was driving fine for a block or two , no slipping... then in the neighborhood started doing it again, ... then not , then again. *#$&#

So he's thinking maybe it's the control unit or the trans speed sensor.
I'm taking it to my trusty mechanic in the a.m. but give me your take on this.

Thanks !!!
Julie


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Postby TheresaD » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:30 pm

Julie - What year is your accord? I had a similar problem with my 2000 a couple years ago on a cold morning. Tranny was slipping etc. I called my Honda dealership and they told me that Honda had extended the warranty on the transmission & asked how soon I could get it in. Turns out the warranty was ending the next day. (Talk about making it under the wire!) I was able to get it there the same day and had the tranny replaced under warranty. My mileage was much lower than yours is so I don't know if you would have any kind of warranty coverage. You should also check to see if there are any sort of recalls that you may not be aware of for your year accord. (I'm not aware of any though) I've had several hondas and they've usually lasted me for well up to 200K and more miles with no problems before I've sold them and bought a new one. I'm on my 4th honda now. 1 civic, 2 accords, and I just bought a 2010 ridgeline. I still have the 2000 accord. I plan to keep it for a while longer. It's just broken in with 139K on it. I hope you are able to get the problem with yours solved without too much expense or trouble. Best of luck!
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Postby NUNGUN-SISTER » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:30 pm

with a 196K milage , it sounds more like you need the bands adjusted!
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Postby asianflava » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:34 am

Don't know what years or even if yours is applicable, but there was a TSB on Accord and Odyssey transmissions. It was something about a vent tube. Everybody I know (yes everybody) with a 2nd generation Odyssey has had transmission problems.
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Postby rbeemer » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:01 am

Sounds like when it heats up is when you have the problem. It could be that your transmission is over-heating. Had this happen to me because on of the cooling lines to the transmission cooler got plugged.
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Postby oklahomajewel » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:17 pm

Thanks all .... update , and by the way I did have a trans cooler added on back 4 yrs ago when I built the first teardrop.
this is a 2001 4 cyl and I have a very trustworthy mechanic/shop that I've gone to for about 20 years.

Took it in today ... by the way, left my driveway and no problems at all... everything smooth , down the street , 2 stop signs, then on main city road., 2 or three stops , ... running smooth.
Got on I-40 and every thing fine up the ramp, and 65 mph everything smooth. Drove about 15 miles to the shop and it started the "slipping" or whatever after off the highway at the first stop sign.

Mechanic came back with codes 1751 and 1739 . 1751=problem in transmission, 1739 = 3rd gear pressure switch... but they say I definitely need a new transmission.

I googled it and found LOTS of easy fixes... that switch is right under the battery, easy to access and about the size of a spark plug.

So I'm considering saying , clear the codes , change the switch... drive it , diag it again and see.

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Postby caseydog » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:04 pm

oklahomajewel wrote:Thanks all .... update , and by the way I did have a trans cooler added on back 4 yrs ago when I built the first teardrop.
this is a 2001 4 cyl and I have a very trustworthy mechanic/shop that I've gone to for about 20 years.

Took it in today ... by the way, left my driveway and no problems at all... everything smooth , down the street , 2 stop signs, then on main city road., 2 or three stops , ... running smooth.
Got on I-40 and every thing fine up the ramp, and 65 mph everything smooth. Drove about 15 miles to the shop and it started the "slipping" or whatever after off the highway at the first stop sign.

Mechanic came back with codes 1751 and 1739 . 1751=problem in transmission, 1739 = 3rd gear pressure switch... but they say I definitely need a new transmission.

I googled it and found LOTS of easy fixes... that switch is right under the battery, easy to access and about the size of a spark plug.

So I'm considering saying , clear the codes , change the switch... drive it , diag it again and see.

???????????


I agree. I would do the switch and see if it drives okay. if it does, just do your regular maintenance and start putting money aside to replace the tranny when it finally does crater.

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Postby oklahomajewel » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:18 pm

CD /Glenn....., you're a car guy so I appreciate your reply.
Going by the shop after work and will ask them , if that switch is accessible and if that's doable. I do trust the shop , and they said this is what Honda motors recognized as a problem and extended warranties for.

I appreciate everyone's responses.

And even if I do need a new tranny, $3000 is cheaper than a new, even new-used car.

I do love my Hondas!!!!

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Postby teardrop_focus » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:30 pm

200 miles is a long service life for an automatic transmission... parts do wear, solenoids deteriorate, etc. and a control valvebody can fill w/ friction material sediment...

I'd do as you're thinking of doing... first replace what's tripping the trouble codes and then drive it some more.

On the other hand if the sensors, switches/solenoids, etc are buried within the trans and it needs to come out and apart to get to them, by all means, replace the trans.
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Postby oklahomajewel » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:14 pm

Well, talked to two other places (dealers) and then stopped by the mechanic and got the skinny.

Transmission is a goner.

Now figuring out how I'll get the money for a new one. Still cheaper than another car and car payments ( and full insurance) .

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Postby H@nk » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:13 am

I have a simulair problem with my Citroen C5 HDI common/rail diesel. The cor is building year 2002 and has 330k kilometer. The problem is only when the engine is not at temp. So lets say, the first 5 minutes of driving. When I speed up till fourt gear, the tranny goes automaticly in a safe/drive. My specialist here says, the oil is old (the tranny is sealed for life) and should be replaced, also the incoming valve and outgoing valve of the oil into the tranny are broken. Costs are around €450,00.
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Postby oklahomajewel » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:08 pm

Well, thanks for the input ..... Didn't try to clear it, but this same code combination is what Honda found on vehicles and issued extended warranties for ... so it's good that I got to 196K ...

I'm waiting on an answer about a little loan , to get a rebuilt.
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Postby queeniejeanne » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:39 pm

Jewells maybe I missed it but why didn't the extended warranty cover yours. Milage on a recall should mean nothing....get loud, girl,and loud sometimes gets on very well at a dealership......try it or crying can sometimes work, especially in public at the dealership.....Queenie Jeanne
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Postby Mark72 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:56 pm

Really as a mechanic by trade 200K is about the top of the expectancy for an automatic transmission. Even if there was a bad sensor or something it is about time and would be in the back of your mind when trying to plan any outing in the car. I would just replace it and have some peace of mind on my next teardropping trip.

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