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Spade termianls

Postby Rickxr2 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:53 pm

Question for the electricians. I've never liked connecting a stranded wire to the screw of a 120v recept. Especially with 12ga wire. Too much wire, not enough screw. Will crimp on spade terminals handle the load. It would make a lot cleaner job.

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Re: Spade termianls

Postby Geron » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:47 pm

Rickxr2 wrote:Question for the electricians. I've never liked connecting a stranded wire to the screw of a 120v recept. Especially with 12ga wire. Too much wire, not enough screw. Will crimp on spade terminals handle the load. It would make a lot cleaner job.

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I certainly hope so. I just mounted two 120vac switches to my porch lights (12vdc) and I crimped on terminals and tightened the screws down on the terminals.

I can't see what harm it could do -- Only breaks the positive wire. BUTTTTT! I'm not speaking from an area of expertise, experience, or acquired knowledge. Maybe someone else can chime in also.

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Postby Dale M. » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:53 pm

120 volt screw connection (standard AC connection) is proven over many many years for solid wire.

For stranded wire (12 volt dc) the options are twist wire and tin it (solder) then wrap it around screw ( similar to solid wire connection), or place spade or ring connector on end of (stranded) wire....

Remember when making wire to scews connection (solid or tinned wire) always make wire into hook shape and it always wrap "hook" around screw in clockwise manner....

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Re: Spade termianls

Postby sdtripper2 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:40 pm

Geron wrote:
Rickxr2 wrote:Question for the electricians. I've never liked connecting a stranded wire to the screw of a 120v recept. Especially with 12ga wire. Too much wire, not enough screw. Will crimp on spade terminals handle the load. It would make a lot cleaner job.

Thanks,
Rick


I certainly hope so. I just mounted two 120vac switches to my porch lights (12vdc) and I crimped on terminals and tightened the screws down on the terminals.

I can't see what harm it could do -- Only breaks the positive wire. BUTTTTT! I'm not speaking from an area of expertise, experience, or acquired knowledge. Maybe someone else can chime in also.

g


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There is a connector or lug rated for the current that you will be using.
Choose the rated lug for the wire and job you are doing.

Crimped connectors or lugs are mechanical connections and must be made correctly.

The most important thing is that you use the proper tool to crimp the lug.

Use the best crimping tool you can afford that is made to crimp the insulated lugs you have chosen.

Crimped insulated lugs work best with non-tinned stranded wire.

When I get done crimping on the lug, I grab the lug and wire and see if I
can pull it apart with lots of force. If it holds with me pulling it hard, then
most likely it will hold for as long as your rig rolls.

Pretty good read and explanation click-y here

Super Champ crimp tool ... an example of the proper tool to crimp your lugs. (PDF file)

Now if you have to splice or connect wire together ...
this subject has had an extensive thread before.
The opinions are varied to be sure.
Go to this thread if you want to run a gauntlet and lug the conversation even more.
http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=11935
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Re: Spade termianls

Postby Nitetimes » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:52 pm

Rickxr2 wrote:Will crimp on spade terminals handle the load.

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The short answer is Yes. :thumbsup:
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Re: Spade termianls

Postby sdtripper2 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:55 pm

Nitetimes wrote:
Rickxr2 wrote:Will crimp on spade terminals handle the load.

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The short answer is Yes. :thumbsup:


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Re: Spade termianls

Postby Geron » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:21 pm

Nitetimes wrote:
Rickxr2 wrote:Will crimp on spade terminals handle the load.

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The short answer is Yes. :thumbsup:



I don't understand. Could you explain??

:lol: :lol: :lol: :) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nitetimes » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:42 pm

I see the wiseacres are all present today!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby sdtripper2 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:58 pm

Nitetimes wrote:I see the wiseacres are all present today!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Can't speak for Geron, But~
I was laughing at myself and your cut to the quick ... spot on answer.
Here I had fussed and fidgeted trying to get an answer that wouldn't be
to controversial .... and then you POP uP and just get to the point.
Showing me that all my fussing wasn't needed~
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bledsoe3 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:30 pm

We do a fair amount of crimping at work.
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Several of our crimpers cost more than $350 each. We do have some 120vac.
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Postby Nitetimes » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:34 pm

I was just funnin with ya Steve.
You frequently impress me with the stuff you come up with so keep it up!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Guess I'm in one of them moods today.
But sometimes there really is a short answer.
8) :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nitetimes » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:35 pm

bledsoe3 wrote:We do a fair amount of crimping at work.
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Several of our crimpers cost more than $350 each. We do have some 120vac.


That looks like waaay more fun than I want to have!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby Geron » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:17 pm

sdtripper2 wrote:
Nitetimes wrote:I see the wiseacres are all present today!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rich:
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Can't speak for Geron, But~
I was laughing at myself and your cut to the quick ... spot on answer.
Here I had fussed and fidgeted trying to get an answer that wouldn't be
to controversial .... and then you POP uP and just get to the point.
Showing me that all my fussing wasn't needed~
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:


Speaking for Geron is Geron.

I agree, you never cease to amaze me. I was most grateful for the confirmation of my previous actions.

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Postby bledsoe3 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:41 pm

Nitetimes wrote:
bledsoe3 wrote:We do a fair amount of crimping at work.
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Several of our crimpers cost more than $350 each. We do have some 120vac.


That looks like waaay more fun than I want to have!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

That's just the tip of the iceberg. That is the narrow side of a 3 sided electrical locker. These trains have tens of thousands of connections.
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Postby Rickxr2 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:11 pm

Thanks everybody for the input. I think I'll get to some crimping now.

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