Wells Cargo 5x10, Wander Waggin - 20101011 update

Converting Cargo Trailers into TTTs

Postby Nathan N » Sun May 09, 2010 7:09 pm

Prem wrote:I left the rear of my teardrop open, without drawers for that same reason. I contemplated how much of the volume of the galley area would get taken up with built-in drawers and decided against it. I only put in a sliding mini-table to set the Coleman stove on to cook. Everything else was in boxes or totes, including lots of firewoods.

The cuteness factor was near zero. The functionality factor was still low because of the odd shape of the rear and the curve. (Boxes would get edges smashed when the galley lid came down.) The airflow and increased fuel efficiency made up for it, kinda sorta.


:thumbsup: Rather well stated.
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Postby Nathan N » Sun May 09, 2010 7:15 pm

kstephenson wrote:Looks great Nathan
You do wonderful work.

Thank you

digimark wrote:That fold-down table to the inside from the back of your galley is soooo awesome. It really looks comfortable in there.

The final result has the inside table on a 16" heavy duty drawer slide. The original plan on the inward folding table was modified due to the bench height versus the galley height. The totes in the middle are now under the center galley rather than on top like the original plans. We are pleased with the adjustments we made to the original plan. Yes it is comfy.


parnold wrote:After spending a night in my 4x8 tear... all I have to say is Cavernous!

Ok.... well I have more... awesome job there! Love the double sided galley!


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Postby okiejokie » Tue May 11, 2010 6:28 pm

Nathan,

You do outstanding work and inspire us all! Do you know how much weight you have added?

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Postby Nathan N » Tue May 11, 2010 8:23 pm

okiejokie wrote:Nathan,

You do outstanding work and inspire us all! Do you know how much weight you have added?

Rex


:oops: Thank you. I really don't yet know on the weight. I have the furnace, fantastic vent, electrical converter, vinyl flooring, the paneling and insulation board, and some cedar trim, the framing for the benches and the galley. I plan on weighing it some day just haven't had the opportunity yet.

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Postby Alan Wood » Tue May 11, 2010 10:42 pm

Nicely done!
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Postby Prem » Tue May 11, 2010 11:26 pm

Nathan,

Your beautiful example is starting to have influence because of its practicality and comfort. ;)

Kind of reminds one of this formula for progress:

1) First something outside the status quo is ridiculed. Then as it gains momentum
2) It is violently opposed by the orthodoxy. But then as it gains even more momentum
3) It's finally accepted as being beneficial.

"Nostalgia ain't what it used to be."

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Postby Nathan N » Wed May 12, 2010 5:34 am

Alan Wood wrote:Nicely done!

Thanks Alan

Prem wrote:Nathan,

Your beautiful example is starting to have influence because of its practicality and comfort. ;)

Kind of reminds one of this formula for progress:

1) First something outside the status quo is ridiculed. Then as it gains momentum
2) It is violently opposed by the orthodoxy. But then as it gains even more momentum
3) It's finally accepted as being beneficial.

"Nostalgia ain't what it used to be."

Prem :O :shhh: :ok:


Thanks Prem. I am happy to be able to share something with the forum - I've gained a lot of knowledge from others' posts. Hopefully others can see the varied cargo conversions on the forum, pick out the parts they like best and use them in their own conversion.
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Grear work WOW.

Postby Crazylegs » Thu May 13, 2010 10:04 pm

What program did you use in the design with?
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Re: Grear work WOW.

Postby Nathan N » Fri May 14, 2010 5:26 am

Crazylegs wrote:What program did you use in the design with?


Thank you.

Design Intuition - however it appears that he is no longer selling it. I did have some problem getting it registered but after some delay he did finally respond.
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Postby doris s. » Fri May 14, 2010 9:33 pm

I had to show my husband your trailer! It's awesome. Hmmmm! I wonder if I could have two drop down beds so it could sleep four? Kids would love that. Did your trailer conversion cost about $5000-if it's not to rude of me to ask? :R

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Postby Nathan N » Sat May 15, 2010 6:51 am

doris s. wrote:I had to show my husband your trailer! It's awesome. Hmmmm! I wonder if I could have two drop down beds so it could sleep four? Kids would love that. Did your trailer conversion cost about $5000-if it's not to rude of me to ask? :R

Doris


Thank you. You could have fold down bunks but would probably want to go with more head room than a 5' tall gives you.

Edited to add: Give some thought to the bunk/cot ideas that folks have used in their trailers. They used closet rods and heavy fabric (canvas?). May have to be creative and build a modified suspension somewhat like the submarine bunks that Starleen had photos of. Perhaps hammocks would be the solution. Either of these would be easier to foldup and stow than a solid framed bunk.


I can't find the email but I had inquired about a new Wells Cargo 5x10 with extra height, two windows, side door, and brakes. The quote was a bit north of $3800.

I found this used Wells Cargo for $2100. It had the side door and because it was a Wells Cargo it had double back doors (a lot of manufacturers go to single door on trailers less than 6' wide). The axle has the brake mounting brackets so I could add brakes.

I just tallied up my receipts for the lumber / hardware / insulation / fixtures and I am at $2400~ so far. I have some extra lumber and insulation included in that total. I have to purchase brakes and a tongue box.

So you are a master estimator :thumbsup:
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Postby doris s. » Sat May 15, 2010 2:23 pm

Thanks for the information Nathan! Our two kids at home are teens they sleep in the tent when we sleep in the teardrop- I feel sorry for them, lol. When we go to the national parks this summer the kids will sleep in the TD and my hubby and I will tent it. Bears and mountain lions in Montana and Wyoming, I don't want to put the kids at risk.

I was thinking that over the winter my hubby and I could do a trailer conversion so when we all go camping together we have some shelter. I will keep my eye out for something used and see what they cost new. I think we will install brakes on a conversion, to risky not to have them.

It's a nice solution to the problem. Not having to build from scratch makes things quicker to finish out. Your camper is awesome. Thanks again for the info.

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Postby Nathan N » Sat May 15, 2010 6:20 pm

doris s. wrote:Thanks for the information Nathan! Our two kids at home are teens they sleep in the tent when we sleep in the teardrop- I feel sorry for them, lol. When we go to the national parks this summer the kids will sleep in the TD and my hubby and I will tent it. Bears and mountain lions in Montana and Wyoming, I don't want to put the kids at risk.

I was thinking that over the winter my hubby and I could do a trailer conversion so when we all go camping together we have some shelter. I will keep my eye out for something used and see what they cost new. I think we will install brakes on a conversion, to risky not to have them.

It's a nice solution to the problem. Not having to build from scratch makes things quicker to finish out. Your camper is awesome. Thanks again for the info.

Doris

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Glad to help. With teenagers bunks might be an issue. We really enjoyed our trip out west to some of the National Parks. Enjoy and take lots of photos.
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Postby glamoree » Sun May 16, 2010 5:02 pm

You have done an incredible job with this, I am working on a 5x8, I have put in two windows, a side door, and now working on A/C. I have also purchased the paneling that you have used. Insulation is 3/4 done too. good job. I am in awe over the job you have done, I hope mine turns out 1/2 as good. I plan on painting mine root beer w/ cream fenders.








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Since I last reported in: the windows were installed, plowed my way through the front shelves, finished up the outhouse, installed the flooring, made some more cedar trim and got that finished and installed.

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I've got to get started on the benches/bed and then tackle the galley. Some things are falling into place and others take a bit of pondering. At this point I'm not sure if my original thoughts on the galley are going to work out... but I will come up with something.[/quote]
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Postby Nathan N » Sun May 16, 2010 5:56 pm

glamoree wrote:You have done an incredible job with this, I am working on a 5x8, I have put in two windows, a side door, and now working on A/C. I have also purchased the paneling that you have used. Insulation is 3/4 done too. good job. I am in awe over the job you have done, I hope mine turns out 1/2 as good. I plan on painting mine root beer w/ cream fenders.



Thank you. The paneling is a bit more expensive but we sure do like it.

The root beer with cream fenders make me think back to a book I read in school. I believe it was authored by William Campbell Gault and it was about hot rods. The color scheme mentioned as I recall was pink and coppertone (might have been brown). I always thought that sounded uniquely different and interesting. Have you read the thread about the color and temperatures? http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=36203

Take plenty of photos and share your adventure.

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