New trailer wheel bearings and a Poll

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New trailer owners did you repack the wheel bearings?

Poll ended at Thu May 05, 2011 2:40 pm

No, How the factory did it is good enough for me
8
32%
Yes, but I didn't find anything wrong with them
8
32%
Yes, and the hubs and bearings were contaminated
4
16%
I'm gonna check them before I start using the trailer
4
16%
I'll just pull it and worry a lot.... Thanks Steve
1
4%
 
Total votes : 25

New trailer wheel bearings and a Poll

Postby Steve_Cox » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:53 am

I have a new 2010 Pace 5 X 8 with a Dexter 3500# axle. As in keeping with the general consensus on the forum, I decided it would be good to repack the wheel bearings just to be on the safe side.

One side was OK, but not very much grease. On the other side the hub was full of fine grit particles. The trailer had less than 5 miles on it so the grit hadn't worked it's way into the Chinese bearings yet. I would have expected better from Dexter. This is the second new trailer I have found what appears to be mill tailings in the hubs. The other one was from Harbor Freight. New trailers as well as used need to have the bearings and hubs cleaned and repacked for peace of mind if nothing else.
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:57 pm

I would be having a conversation with Dexter were I you, as well as the trailer manufacturer.
This is a good reminder and once we pick up the new MM I will be re doing the bearings (planed on switching to oil any way).
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Postby parnold » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:05 pm

My HF trailer definately needed cleaning before repacking!

I also purchased an entire hub, with bearings and seals and keep it stowed in the tongue box, I figure if I ever have a problem on the road, it will be easier to just slide a whole new hub on.
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Postby pete42 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:48 pm

I always checked my bearings when I bought a new trailer.
They kinda looked at me funny when I parked my new scamp in the manufactures drive way jacked up the trailer and checked the bearings.
The second scamp I bought they said that they had made sure the bearings were packed because it looked bad for them with me doing it in the drive. I might add both were greased but I didn't want to start out on a 1000 mile trip with bad bearings.

question to steve how do you know trailer was only pulled 5 miles?

question to Shadow Catcher how do you keep the oil in a hub meant for grease?

remark to parnold good soultion but I'll bet not many do.

Steve you gave a very good example why the bearings need checked.

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Postby eamarquardt » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:50 pm

I pulled mine apart as I ordered brakes and they were left off and were sent later. I found that the castellated bearing retaining nut (part of an American made alxe) was defective! The surface that pressed against the washer/bearing wasn't perfectly perpendicular to the axle axis and would have caused problems over time. I replaced it.

I think it's good form to inspect the bearings, clean and repack as required, and reset the bearing preload before starting out. Also, reset the bearing preload after a few thousand miles.

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Postby Steve_Cox » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:35 pm

pete42 wrote:I always checked my bearings when I bought a new trailer.
They kinda looked at me funny when I parked my new scamp in the manufactures drive way jacked up the trailer and checked the bearings.
The second scamp I bought they said that they had made sure the bearings were packed because it looked bad for them with me doing it in the drive. I might add both were greased but I didn't want to start out on a 1000 mile trip with bad bearings.

question to steve how do you know trailer was only pulled 5 miles?

question to Shadow Catcher how do you keep the oil in a hub meant for grease?

remark to parnold good soultion but I'll bet not many do.

Steve you gave a very good example why the bearings need checked.

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I bought it at Home Depot about 5 miles from home, it had 2 self tapping screws like the ones attaching the sheet metal to the trailer in one of the tires. There were no road wear marks on the screw heads. I took them out before driving home. So, that was how I determined the trailer had no miles before I got it. 8)
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:21 pm

You use a kit that allows you to use oil i.e. http://www.trailerpartsdepot.com/items. ... TpStatus=1 It has a rear seal and allows you to see the oil in your hub. and if it is contaminated with water
or http://www.tiedown.com/pdf/a751.pdf or http://www.durahub.com
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Postby chief400 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:42 pm

Has anyone found that they get better mileage with oil bath hubs or synthetic grease?
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:45 pm

They run cooler which implies less friction. I have used synthetic grease exclusively for years.
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Postby pete42 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:10 am

Thanks for replying to my questions Steve

On one of my pop-ups the dealer pulled it out of their shop and hooked it up for me and when I got home one tire was flat it too had a screw in the tire.
when I took it back they said I must have picked up a screw from the road
we were standing in their shop and the floor had a lot of screws laying all about.
to their credit they did replace the tire
I suggesed they sweep up.

Shadow catcher thanks I had not heard of this like you said less heat less friction.

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Postby nevadatear » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:49 pm

Actually, I am not sure if they were contaminated or not. My husband the machinist, removed and replaced the bearings first thing before they ever hit the road. Replaced with Timken bearings, was never a chance to ride on the Chinese bearings, whether they were contaminated or not. Just pulled the bearings for first check after two years and they look great.
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Postby len19070 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:05 pm

The Axle I used on my Scotty sat on my shelf for about 3 years.
Of course I repacked the bearings.

But as a rule I always redo the bearings on all my trailers because I don't know how long they sat on the manufacturers shelves.

When the axle is sitting on the bench...Its easy.

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