Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby KCStudly » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:19 pm

I think mine are similar, but a different brand. I'd have to look back thru my build thread to jog my memory.

I ordered mine direct from the "manufacturer" (importer), specified the version for thick doors, and keyed alike. My doors will end up at 1-3/4 thk (5 mm or 3/16 inner ply, 1-1/2 foam, and I am guessing that the canvas and paint outer skin will add about 1/16 inch). They had a fleet option that would have a master key, but they were universally the same. I wanted more security than that, so they agreed to select two sets that were of the same key code (there are only so many variations). By going direct I paid quite a bit more than a lot of the online sources, but I got what I wanted. I did have to wait for "the shipment to arrive" (which is what clued me off to the fact that they were farming them out to Asia, and the screws weren't long enough to suit the listed wall thickness for the extra thick wall version (probably put the std wall thickness screw set in with the thick wall latches), but the bolt shaft and latch release levers are longer to suit the thicker doors.

Regarding hasps, padlocks, and other external hardware; you don't want to use anything that can accidentally, unintentionally, or maliciously become latched from the outside while you are inside. Safety first.
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby RandyG » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:34 pm

The problem I see with just using an outside only locking devise is, what if someone wants to play a joke or rob you by locking you in your own trailer while you sleep. Maybe not such a problem in a crowded camp ground but I'm losing my faith in humanity little by little, and I haven't a lick of trust for strangers. I don't mean to sound paranoid :lol:
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:27 am

RG, You put the lock in the loop ,lock it... nobody can play any jokes ... ;) Anybody who would do such a thing needs a good whomping... :DOH2:

However, we will be using a regular door lockset... Yet to be found in my collection of house parts ... Had a whole bag of em’ around here .... somewhere ? :NC
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby kudzu » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:22 am

GPW wrote:RG, You put the lock in the loop ,lock it... nobody can play any jokes ... ;) Anybody who would do such a thing needs a good whomping... :DOH2:


Totally agree with you on the whomping part. Unfortunately, someone can still lock you in even if you locked a padlock into the loop. All they need is good wire. Heck, a coat hanger might work. It seems unlikely one would try but it's something to consider. However, if you found the right length, double hinged hasp you may be able to fold it to the inside of the camper & away from temptation.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-i ... c7Qe5xQBq4

Just a thought.
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:17 am

Just a thought ... somebody trying something like that could get SHOT !!! :o :roll: We old folks don’t fool around ..!!! :frightened:

Ps. and it’s not like we couldn’t get out in an emergency ... with a steak knife ... :lol:
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby atahoekid » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:53 am

A bear could also be handy at a moment like that. Just need a good swipe of the paw. :lol: :shock: :D And I'm not just picking on Foamies. Fiberglass and thin gauge aluminum would suffer the same way.

I understand thrifty and frugal and I have faith in most of mankind but I like my door lock with interior handle and interior lock lever. I wanted peace of mind. :thumbsup:
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby wagondude » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:33 am

A second loop could be mounted to lock the hasp in the open position. But a proper lock/latch is the better way to go. Thrifty is one thing, cheap is another where safety is concerned. I would save money somewhere else.
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:45 am

... and a dead bolt . ;)

For us, the hasp and lock is great for our little Foamie #1 , as it’s now been relegated to towing all the stuff we don’t want to load up in the FS :roll: ... But for the "Living Quarters" it will have to be a real door lockset... whether home or RV style ... It has been decreed "by you know who "... fait accompli ... :o
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby planovet » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:03 am

GPW wrote:What about a padlock and a hasp ?


That is what I used on my galley hatch :thumbsup:

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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby working on it » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:58 am

Though not a foamie, my Plywood only trailer was built with secure doors that may be applicable to all (unconventional appearing) trailers. Not pretty, but functional. The 3/4" thick plywood walls and doors (cutouts from the wall) are each secured with dual slide-action bolts and padlocks, with triple hinges.
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108386 All the door locks and hinged are secured with a combination of carriage bolts/security bolts/locking nuts where none can be easily removed or pulled loose from the outside. When inside the trailer at night, all latches can be padlocked open, and I (or my wife) can use the inside drop-bar latches to secure the doors. 105191 The 3/4" oak dowel is a tight fit in the slots and cannot be loosened from the outside, and the force required to shear it is significant. If I were to do another build (of course, another unconventional one), I would probably use these latches on both sides of each door. I couldn't find any like these at the time, now's too late.
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby working on it » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:02 pm

I hasten to add that , if my wife couldn't unbar the door, or someone managed to lock the doors from outside, then there's always the inside-cabin toolset:
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  • *3500 lb Dexter EZ-Lube braked axle, 3000 lb.springs, active-progressive bumpstop suspension
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  • *extended-run, on-board, 2500w generator *Coleman dual-fuel stove & lantern, Ikea grill, vintage skillet
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby working on it » Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:03 pm

I forgot, one final tool, as a final response:
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby KCStudly » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:46 pm

Nice piece. :thumbsup:
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Re: Door clousers, locks, handles, ect

Postby Bogo » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:49 pm

atahoekid wrote:I've done many of them and can't imagine trying to mount a door knob without the proper hole saws.
I used a hand drill, coping saw, and some gouges to do the first few I did. I graduated to using a power drill, saber saw, and a power rasp for a bunch more years. I've only used the proper doorknob hole saws for the past three decades... :lol: You make do with what you got. ;)
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