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Re: Satellite Phones: Anybody have one?

Postby deleted » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:34 am

I did find a good basic video on Youtube about using a signaling mirror. The host demonstrates what the SOS morse code looks like at the end and how to make sure you're aiming it properly in the direction you want to signal. It seems like anyone going into the wilderness for a day hike, camping, skiing, rock climbing, boating, should have a mirror with them. It's quite a brilliant device. http://youtu.be/e3YQ4EhEpJY
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Re: Satellite Phones: Anybody have one?

Postby legojenn » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:01 am

Unless there is a pressing business, or health reason (you or someone close to you), I am wondering if your need to be in constant contact with the world. I travel alone all the time. As late as the mid-1990s, cell phones where really just an overpriced business tool and few people felt that they needed one for safety. Living in Canada, I am used to cell dead-zones. The further north that you go, the less cell towers there are. Also when you head into parks like Algonquin or Adirondack, things get spotty. I carry a cell phone, but if there is no service, I don't worry too much. As long as you are prepared for things that you can fix yourself, like a having food and water, a first-aid kit and fluids & tools for the car and trailer, it should be no big deal waiting for help to arrive. Make sure that you have the best antenna possible on your phone. I switched from a Samsung/Android phone to an iPhone because it seemed to work better in what we call mountains in the east. My car also has Onstar, which seems to get a better signal then even the phone. I know because I was drunk once and I locked my keys in my car so I wouldn't be tempted to drive off one weekend in the bush and they remotely unlocked my car in the morning. Money spent on electronic gadgets that may never get used might be better spent on things to help you cope with situations that you might face on the road.
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Re: Satellite Phones: Anybody have one?

Postby deleted » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:23 am

You've made some really good points legojenn. I would definitely always have enough food and water on board to last a few days and I already have a good first aid kit. "Money spent on electronic gadgets that may never get used might be better spent on things to help you cope with situations that you might face on the road." I do agree with you on this. But the way I look at it it doesn't have to be an either or situation. I can do both, have things that aren't electronic and have things that are. In my experience there's no substitute for a cell phone at expediting the speed at which I'll be able to ask for and receive assistance when a situation is beyond my control.

My main focus is safety in several distinct situations. The first is being vulnerable on the side of the road if my car breaks down and I'm not in a safe area meaning I'm in a bad neighborhood. I once had a tire blow out near one of the two most dangerous neighborhoods in San Francisco at night and had to pull off the highway into the edge of said bad neighborhood (as it would have been too dangerous to park on the shoulder following a curve on the interstate in the dark). When I called AAA they looked at my location on a map and said they would make me a priority call and the next available driver would be sent to me. It took less than 5 minutes for the driver to arrive). Another concern is a narrow shoulder that doesn't give me enough distance from the lanes of traffic (more on that later), or if night was falling because I don't want to be stuck on the side of the road in the dark until help finds me rather than I be able to call for help. Also if someone is harassing me in some way and won't leave me alone I want to be able to call the police or Highway Patrol to come help me.

The concern about a narrow shoulder to pull off on came to pass on my maiden voyage just over a week ago but thankfully I was within range of a cell tower. I'll be blogging the entire harrowing experience in a day or two (with lots of picture) but here are the main details:

I saw some really nasty looking storm clouds on the horizon so I called my mom on my car's blue tooth system. If it was going to be bad I could pull over in the town and wait out the storm. She looked up my location on the real time satellite weather map and saw that of the five stages of weather it was rated as a two of five meaning rain and heavy rain. I stopped for gas right off the exit and got right back on the interstate. Less than ten minutes had probably elapsed since I'd made the call. Less than two minutes later as I drove into the storm clouds it became really, dark, almost as dark as night right after dusk. Immediately I knew something was wrong because it was 2:00 in the afternoon but it looked like 9:30 PM.

Before I could even think through what was wrong the hail started. In those few minutes the storm had gone from rain only to a tornado watch with severe hail. Within 10 seconds I was in a white out hail storm and could barely see the road. I was able to inch my way to the shoulder just barely making out the solid white line on the side to know where to pull over to before it was covered with ice. The hail was tremendous. By the time it was over it looked like just under 3" of pea to marble sized hail had fallen in just a minute or two. The sound was thunderous as it came down on the top of the car and at the time all I could imagine were dozens of dents forming on my new trailer's aluminum skin. :frightened:

As I sat there listening to it pound down I thought to myself "Oh well, if it ruins my trailer I'll just have to turn around and drive the 2.5 days back to Michigan and move in with Fred while he re-skins her for me."

Within a minute of the hail stopping traffic began flowing again at almost full speed. I however was stranded on the very narrow shoulder of the highway just below the crest of an incline. NOTE: When faced with an immanent loss of visibility LOOK at the shoulder while you still can to figure out how far you can pull over safely. I didn't and wasn't sure if the shoulder was flat to a meadow, a steep embankment, a small gutter, or a drop off a cliff. Because I wasn't sure I only pulled over until I was just inches over the white line. Later I would realize I could have pulled over an additional foot.

So there I was, on the shoulder too close to traffic. Without the proper snow or all season tires combined with the weight of the trailer I was stuck. Without a cell phone I would have had to wait it out until the Highway Patrol found me, which eventually they would have, but it was a precarious situation to be in. Even more so when I watched a car, flying past me just inches away at 60+ mph, hydroplane on the now melted hail and pouring rain in the right lane and spin out of control off the shoulder and into a field 50 yards ahead of me. That's when I started worrying less about my trailer being dented by hail and more about me being flattened by an out of control car or truck.

Thankfully since I'd just passed a town there was cell reception and I was able to call the local police department who transferred me to the highway patrol who called a AAA wrecker for me who arrived 20 minutes later to pull me to the top of the hill. As it turned out the car that slid out did me a favor because as they slid across the shoulder they removed a bunch of the hail that had piled up which allowed my tires to gain enough traction to clear the shoulder (the wrecker strategically pulled me to the cleared area) and make it back out onto the highway once he unhooked me.

I also called my mom back and asked her for the latest update on the storm I was near. She gasped and said It's all red! And there's a severe hail and tornado warning! I said I knew that already, I was just wondering how accurate the map was :lol:

So I really don't feel I'm being too cautious. Things happen. My past experiences tell me the best thing to do is plan for them and be prepared so when something does happen I can lessen the odds that more will go wrong. :thumbsup:
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Re: Satellite Phones: Anybody have one?

Postby deleted » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:56 am

Here are some pics from the aftermath of the hail storm I was stranded in on I-90 just west of Gillette, WY:

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Re: Satellite Phones: Anybody have one?

Postby Mojave Bob » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:28 am

It really comes down to each person determining their own comfort level for insurance. How on earth did we survive before technology, you may ask? Well, there are a couple of answers to that. First, we didn't. If we found ourselves in a life-threatening situation without access to a phone, we were far more likely to be hurt or die. Cell phones, used properly, can save lives. Used improperly, they take lives. A cell phone will summon help MOST of the time for MOST people. But, it is certainly not a universal solution. Adding multiple cell phones improve the odds. Adding a sat-phone improves them further. Adding a CB improves it some more. So, cumulatively, you can get a lot of protection, but none of them are total protection by themselves, or even together.

The second answer is that before technology, we were more adept at figuring out other ways to protect ourselves. Just like GPS has eroded our ability/confidence at navigating by the seat of our pants, cell phones and other tech have eroded our preparedness for a tech-less emergency.

Back in the day, a compass and a mirror were standard issue for going off-trail. My compass had a mirror built in, and I could navigate by compass by the time I was seven years old. Will a mirror save your life? Probably not, BUT IT MIGHT. It is one more thing to try in your bag of tricks.

By the way, I should point out that CB radio does not have the range it had in the 1970s. And, just as there are good people monitoring CB radio, there are some creepos monitoring it, too. Be careful who you summon to your "rescue". You are announcing your situation and your location to anybody who is listening.

One other thing - don't get a gun unless you are really confident you could use it if you had to. You don't want to arm your opponent.

If I were an attractive single young lady, I would take more precautions than I do as a big ugly dumb male. That's just smart. As my motorcycle safety instructor said, "Know the risk. Mitigate as much of it as is practical, and then decide if you are willing to accept what's left".
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