Layout Question

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Layout Question

Postby foamer01 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:14 pm

Here is yet another question. I am pretty certain about going with a rear door only, so I will have our bed/table in the front. The trailer will have a almost 3' wedge. Is there a good way to plan a bed in this space. I am not seeing it in my twisted head. I hate to go with a flat front. Any thought sin regards to my dilemma?
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Re: Layout Question

Postby mikeschn » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:55 pm

Can you make a sketch of the side profile and upload a picture so we can see it?

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Re: Layout Question

Postby RAYVILLIAN » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:04 pm

Our WWII is 5' high at the top but wedges down to 24" wide and 32" tall at the front.
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I know that is taller than your 3' but it might give you some ideas. I'd say with the bed that you'll have to go length wise unless you plan on being at least 70" wide. Ours is 76" wide and if goes from 24" to that wide in 24". We also have a 12" platform that the bed sits on so if you put the bed on the floor like most Tears you could get by a lot lower to the ground.



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Re: Layout Question

Postby foamer01 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:07 pm

I just uploaded a stock photo, pretty much straight forward wedge-nose cargo, no side door. Hope this helps.
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Re: Layout Question

Postby bc toys » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:55 am

if you are ordering it have them put door in side dont cost that much extra it will be worth it thats my 2 cents but if you dont put cabnets up in the V and make a bad that folds up to wall. so you can have working space during the day.
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Re: Layout Question

Postby foamer01 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:29 am

bc toys wrote:if you are ordering it have them put door in side don't cost that much extra it will be worth it that's my 2 cents but if you don't put cabinets up in the V and make a bad that folds up to wall. so you can have working space during the day.


I certainly understand what you are saying. I keep coming back to the Taylor Coach people out of Canada and watching their YouTube videos and the rear door really seems to work well for them, especially in a fairly small cabin. The only thing Taylor doesn't have to contend with is a v or wedge nose. I just wondering if there is a way to get a workable bed in the front of this type of trailer. I suppose I could order with a flat front and put my issue to bed. Any ideas out there?
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Re: Layout Question

Postby OverTheTopCargoTrailer » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:34 am

well share the link, we like to watch video's too :D :D :D
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Re: Layout Question

Postby MtnDon » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:27 pm

Make it a flat front inside by building a false wall. Use for storage. Maybe have an exterior baggage door access for part. ???
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Re: Layout Question

Postby foamer01 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:20 pm

OverTheTopCargoTrailer wrote:well share the link, we like to watch video's too :D :D :D


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Re: Layout Question

Postby roadinspector » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:57 pm

Areodynamically a round nose is more efficient than a V, if that helps with your choice. A V can actually contribute to trailer sway. The wind has two sides to push against instead of being pushed away. I do like MtnDon's idea of a false wall for storage with a V nose.

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Re: Layout Question

Postby foamer01 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:00 am

roadinspector wrote:Areodynamically a round nose is more efficient than a V, if that helps with your choice. A V can actually contribute to trailer sway. The wind has two sides to push against instead of being pushed away. I do like MtnDon's idea of a false wall for storage with a V nose.

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Very interesting, the more I read the more I learn. I would like to read more about this. Can you direct me to this information, and I would like to see an example of a trailer with a round nose. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Layout Question

Postby jwhite » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:47 pm

I use my V-nose area for my toilet and storage , the back of the shower has a access door.
I originally was going to keep the toilet in the shower area but as much as I was going into that area I was always havening to step over the toilet I later moved it to where it is now in the corner and out of the way.
I also have it permanent and I made a drain so I can empty it from the outside.

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Re: Layout Question

Postby ValerieP » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:54 am

We only have a couple of weeks now before our cargo trailer arrives- 7x12 V. it's been a long time coming! We ordered a 36" door with window, and apparently that is a special order., along with a ramp in the back- just in case we ever need to drive something into it.
We plan to put the toilet in the V- I had the door moved so that it begins 2ft from the end, which will give us a bit more room in the V. We plan to have the galley on the drivers side and the bed-futon in the back. I had windows placed accordingly, so I hope it works!
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Re: Layout Question

Postby roadinspector » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:03 pm

foamer01 wrote:
roadinspector wrote:Areodynamically a round nose is more efficient than a V, if that helps with your choice. A V can actually contribute to trailer sway. The wind has two sides to push against instead of being pushed away. I do like MtnDon's idea of a false wall for storage with a V nose.

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Very interesting, the more I read the more I learn. I would like to read more about this. Can you direct me to this information, and I would like to see an example of a trailer with a round nose. Thanks for your help.
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This actually relates more to larger trailers like big RVs and a big selling point for sway control hitches. A CT is generally small enough and the TV is big enough to have enough force to overcome it.
I can't find my old physics book from too many moons ago. A V still has flat surfaces as opposed to curved. Even though they are on an angle the drag is higher. The angle of the V makes a difference too. In a high cross wind situation, the V creates variable flat surfaces, which creates variable forces pushing on the trailer. The higher coefficiency of a flat as opposed to a V can cause problems. Curved surfaces give a smoother path for wind to deflect around. A teardrop is actually a better design for aerodynamics than a CT.
I found some info with a combination of more than one site for you. http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/shaped.html http://www.insideracingtechnology.com/tech102drag.htm
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0231.shtml
The rest is from an aged memory from studying physics way too long ago. :oops:

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