Furnace idea.

[Junkboy999]

When you say Nu-Way here is what I thought of.

Discover Wichita - NuWay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akV01EhgPsI
The is one a block from my house and the one in the video is across from where I worked for 6 years. Older people loving eating there. My neighbor said that is because to don’t have to chew the burgers. H hahaha


Looking at the only youtube video of the Nu-WAY stove, that just looks to hot. You’ll have to stoke a few times a night. All you need to a mild heat to knock off the chill at night and something that will last a good 6 - 8 hours

I wonder how a super small automatic feed pellet stove ( outside ) with an air heat exchanger would work. The auto feeder would need power unless you can jimmy rig a huge clock spring, escapement to control the feeding.

Ha if you already have a hole where you place in an AC how about using a
US Stove 2400 Window mount pellet Stove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyC8gK4lsHg
But again this one requires power so you might as well have a $15 wally world ceramic heater or a light bulb.


Ha and no one liked my Coleman lantern heater idea.

[Rainier70]

I use the Nu-Way 2000 propane stove in my 6x12 cargo trailer. It's heat range is very adjustable. I would think you would need to use it in an add-on alcove, if you put one in a smaller TD or TT.

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[Ron Dickey]

Ha and no one liked my Coleman lantern heater idea.

Dan Hazard had this at the last IRG he used it as a tankless water heater used a week killer pump to run the water through as needed.


The problem with yours is where to put the lamp where it will not over heat nor catch anything on fire.

But as a water heater it works.

Ron

[Ron Dickey]

We had a nice chat with Robert last night, and he shared the following pictures with us...





Mike...

Robert is a man who when he camps he hooks put his tailer tung that he can lift with with ease, and attaches it to his ford ranger and heads off to the mountains to camp. He does not want anymore weight then he needs to save on gas when pulling it up a steep grade. We all try our best to balance our trailers so we are not to heavy on the tung. For lifting and not pull the car down to much. But we forget how much weight we are pulling when it comes to steep hills and such. Gas is not cheap and her in California we are lucky if it is below $5 a gal.

His main reason for the candles in the tins was it does not weigh much. And keep him warm cheaply.

Ron

[Ron Dickey]

The heater has been out for 3 or 4 years now but it only gets cold a short time here. I took a candle, 1 big can and one little can. I drilled holes in the sides of the cans so the candle would not die of it's own smoke. I put the candle in a holder, put the small can on top then put the big can over the little one and usually burn it next to me at the computer. at night it gets to freezing and in the morning the house is 48 deg. We mostly bundle up like we were living in a cabin in the woods and keep going. I have not tried it in the boxkite yet. The trailer leaks enough air that I will live if I try it.

I saw cookie cans at the $1 store with hinges was tempted and may still try it.
while I was there I bought a pack of tealight candles.
Ron

[Ron Dickey]

I notice some folks have air conditioner hookups with their trailers with a hose in and out and the unit sits on the ground. could you have a heat exchanger that goes through the camp fire and carries the heat to the trailer in the same manor as the cool air does?

I ran across heat exchange when I war looking at the road shower and seeing what others had done to get a hot shower from another heat source!

Ron

[Shadow Catcher]

Ron
I have been thinking in terms of using a boiler and then using hoses containing the coolant into a radiator in the tear, but you just started me thinking in terms of keeping it all external and using the 4" "air" hoses for circulation. This would simplify the set up considerably, Imagine this as the boiler with a set of longer and insulated hoses.


This is the Espar heater using the same hoses. This works, uses very little current, but the Espar/Eberspacher heaters are very expensive.

[mikeschn]

Shadowcatcher,

There are some a/c's with heat as well as a/c. Do you think those would work with your external setup?

Mike...

[Ron Dickey]

there are many 12v heaters out there

google images: 12v heater

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... &ppt=C0092

above $22 at o'reilly auto might nock the nippy-nus off.

I like the candle idea for over night. And will not run the battery down.

Ron

[Ron Dickey]

The doghouse heater/air conditioner gave me an idea. Tell me if this is silly. Since I would only need the heat late in the year, like October and November, why not make a heater that was external like the doghouse. The heaters in most travel trailers are ducted, I could build a box that sat outside and housed the furnace and run the duct up into the floor. That way if I wanted heat for the trip, I could throw the heater inside and take it with me. That way it won't be taking up valuable real-estate inside the tear when I don't need it. I could probably pick up a used furnace at the salvage yard for less than 50 dollars.

I could do the same with an air conditioner, which is only needed here in Michigan for a couple of months of the year. Plus if we are going wilderness camping, I wouldn't need to bring the air conditioner as there is no power.

Any thoughts?

so where has this taken you ? have any of the answers helped you or what did you do?
got any shots??

You site has helped me come up with some inventive thing

I like the candle idea myself but my only question is about the exhaust and the excess wax and is there build up in the exhaust pipe.

I was given the body to a apple G5 and have been gutting it. The body makes a nice table and it has 5 fans and 2 huge heat sinks

As you see below I am building my trailer as we speak.

what you see is half of my trolley top. so there is a mirrored one on the other side.
The back window will get a small circular air vent in it. one on each side. One air in one air out.

on the inside of each will be placed one of these
a galvanized flange. then I can attach either electrical conduit or galvanized pipe fitting on it. they will bend down to the cookie tin. with the one that is air in being below on one side and the out being at flame level, allowing heat to build before it exhausts out the out air side.
above the tin will be this will be the big big G5 heat sink the photo is to big to show http://erecycleronline.com/media/catalo ... 0337_5.jpg
it has something like 15 open to air vents and copper the goes up through them and is connected to a copper or brass heat catcher. This catcher will be attached to the top of the cookie tin.

I have a van that is a double unit. http://www.powerbookmedic.com/xcart1/im ... image.jpeg that I will use as the vent fan from the outside and heater fan with the vent closed or open.
The fan will be mounted so I can rotate it up or down or make the air go toward us or out the vent. The Vent will be at the back of the trolley facing backward and horizontal to the top.

I hope you did not find that to confusing but I tried.
Ron

[Ron Dickey]

I plan to drill the holes in the tin and put the heat sink above take it in the house and see if will give us heat as we sleep.

any one have any input on my heat sink idea?

[Weirdnerd]

I wonder if someone has tried the UCO candlelier?.. I have used it many times in my teardrop when temperatures hover 20 to 30 degrees, you can light one, two or three candles depending on your level of heat needed, the candles last about 9 hours, and they keep the teardrop nice and toasty, also they somehow reduce condensation moisture. It is a must to keep the top vent open, to prevent yourself from being snuffed.

[KCStudly]

The appeal of the cookie tin candle furnace is that the wax fumes go outside. Wax fumes irritate my sinuses. I also like the safety aspect of the inherent "anti-tip over" feature of it being permanently mounted in a shatter proof container, and it blocks the light so you can sleep soundly.

Is your camper insulated?

[Weirdnerd]

Yes, I have 1.5 inch insulation all around, knowing how Colorado winters are, it has saved my bacon while contracting out of town in temperatures down to -10F, here is a couple of pictures of the insulation:

[KCStudly]

Oh yeah, of course. It's all coming back to me now.

It's good to have more examples of insulated campers being able to heat with candles at lower outside temps. I got discouraged a little when Mike's testing showed poor results in a plywood box. Thanks for the input.