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is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby steve_29045 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:53 am

Curious what the thoughts here are from those who will answer...

If going with a box shaped trailer and using 2x4 to build the frame of the box, would say 1/4" birch or ply be strong enough for the walls and roof?

I would use 2x2 to frame out the door and window opening for added strength

Any thoughts?
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby Woodbutcher » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:49 am

You could speed up your build and maybe not add much weight by just using 3/4" for your sides and 1/4' for the roof. My last teardrop had a 1" X 1" frame work and 1/4" skins all over.
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Here is the inside with the 1/4" skin on the outside....

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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby Dale M. » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:27 am

IF going to be just a living enclosure 2x4 is way over kill..... Either 2x2 ir 1x2 will have enough strength once you use glue and screws to fasten inside and out side sheeting to framework....

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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby Jdw2717 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:28 pm

Mine is 1/4" outside, 3/4" pine board framing with foam insulation with 1/4" inside. The roof/front/hatch is 2"x2" stringers 12" apart with 1/8" birch inside and out. It is extremely strong and has close to 2000 miles on it at this point.
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby Disc Golfer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:26 pm

I built mine with 2x4 framing and 1/2" Plywood inside and out. Insulated the floor and ceiling. Window AC up front 2 14x21 windows on each side and two 12x18 windows in the back. Cut a full size solid door down to 32x32. Imbedded the same wood in the wall opposite the door to balance the weight of the side walls. It's heavy and not a carpenters dream build but I am enjoying what I managed to put together. Tows great on my HF trailer.
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby noseoil » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:38 am

I'm thinking of using 3/4" plywood for the structural panels (skeletonized / cut into chords & webs with triangulation), 1/8" interior skin & ceiling panels, 1/8" exterior & 1/4" for the roof. Skinned with aluminum, this should be more than enough with 1 1/2" x 3/4" spars for a 5' x 10' on a good trailer frame. 0.032" aluminum skins set in Sikaflex would be the exterior finish, don't see how this wouldn't be a winning combination for light, strong, tough and weatherproof. Any comments on this for a system? tim
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby DMcCam » Wed May 07, 2014 11:56 pm

noseoil wrote:I'm thinking of using 3/4" plywood for the structural panels (skeletonized / cut into chords & webs with triangulation), 1/8" interior skin & ceiling panels, 1/8" exterior & 1/4" for the roof. Skinned with aluminum, this should be more than enough with 1 1/2" x 3/4" spars for a 5' x 10' on a good trailer frame. 0.032" aluminum skins set in Sikaflex would be the exterior finish, don't see how this wouldn't be a winning combination for light, strong, tough and weatherproof. Any comments on this for a system? tim


Sounds about right and mostly what I did. If you fill the space between the roof spars with rigid insulation you'll only need 1/8" Baltic Birch for the roof skin especially if you use .040 aluminum. 0.032 might be fine if you go with anodized. I'm not sure; Grant at Little Bear would be the go to guy for that. With the skeletonized 3/4" and the two layers of 1/8" you don't save much on weight maybe 30 lbs a wall but, you'll gain a ton of strength.

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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby rowerwet » Thu May 08, 2014 7:00 am

mine is stick built 1/4" ply 1x2" sticks and another layer of 1/4" with foam insulation in the walls, my room is 1x2 spars and 1/4" ply, no inner roof. 1/4" is plenty, keep your wood small 1x2" will save weight and still give you enough of a target to drive screws into. The big deal, I think, is to fully glue all seams with a good glue (I used PLpremium) this makes the joints stronger than the wood, and waterproofs every joint.
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby jstrubberg » Wed May 14, 2014 3:08 pm

2x framing is massively overbuilt.

3/4" is plenty. I would be completely confident in 3/4" framing with 1/4" inside. Outside you may want to use 3/8" or some type of metal, just to take the dents and dings better.

There are generations of larger trailers built with 3/4" stick built frames and staples!
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby Junkboy999 » Wed May 14, 2014 8:20 pm

Mine is ¾ ply walls and ⅛ plywood bent over 1x2 for crossbars for the forr. The ⅛ ply did take a beating and got two crack in it from hail. I just repolyed the whole camper and she is good to go.
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby working on it » Wed May 14, 2014 8:38 pm

Junkboy999 wrote:Mine is ¾ ply walls and ⅛ plywood bent over 1x2 for crossbars for the forr. The ⅛ ply did take a beating and got two crack in it from hail. I just repolyed the whole camper and she is good to go.
That was one of the primary reasons for me not to attempt a true teardrop shape, besides my amateur woodworking status...I've seen several hail-damaged trailers, back in the day, and dozens of cars. It'd take a big hailstone to crash thru 3/4" ply (or small tree branches, for that matter). But for the "teardrop" look, you must bend the thinner material, and hope for the best.
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Re: is a 1/4" good enough?

Postby crazycyclist » Wed May 14, 2014 9:12 pm

A good practice is to use two layers of 1/8 baltic birch for the top skin - installing one layer first and then gluing the second layer to that one.
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