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Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby Davagio » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:28 pm

Okay so i have the deck floor that still needs to be painted underneath and the wood fender boxes put on. However my paint wont be here until Tuesday or Wednesday so my question is..........

After the flooring is permanently mounted and the fenders are on what would be a good idea to start building next? The Walls (which i still dont have an ouside profile shaped picked out yet) the Bed framing, the counter tops, or something else???! This is my first build so i am unsure of what would be smart to start construction on, that way i dont end up doing things the long way around!!!

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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby S. Heisley » Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:57 pm

If you follow in the foot steps of one of Doug Hodder’s build threads, I don’t think you can go wrong.

Here are a couple of his threads:

This one might be something like your’s:

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=32236&start=60

And this one is his latest:

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=52665&p=1080865#p1080865

Best wishes in whatever you do!
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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby 48Rob » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:37 am

D,

I would suggest removing the floor and painting/sealing the underside first, then remounting it, paying special attention to the mounting hole areas.
Getting the wood completely sealed now will save you untold problems down the road.

I enjoy doing some things on the fly...building camping trailers isn't one of them, as the opportunity for re-doing things is very high without having a plan in my head for what exactly it will be/look like when finished.

Sorry if I've misunderstood your position, and you do have a plan?

If you do have a plan, you need to go over it and decide if it makes more sense to build inside out or outside in.

If you are a highly detailed person, inside out may be a good choice...but as your plan is not yet complete even though you have your foundation built, building outside in will be much more forgiving. :thumbsup:

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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby S. Heisley » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:01 am

48Rob wrote:D,

I would suggest removing the floor and painting/sealing the underside first, then remounting it, paying special attention to the mounting hole areas.
Getting the wood completely sealed now will save you untold problems down the road.

I enjoy doing some things on the fly...building camping trailers isn't one of them, as the opportunity for re-doing things is very high without having a plan in my head for what exactly it will be/look like when finished.

Sorry if I've misunderstood your position, and you do have a plan?

If you do have a plan, you need to go over it and decide if it makes more sense to build inside out or outside in.

If you are a highly detailed person, inside out may be a good choice...but as your plan is not yet complete even though you have your foundation built, building outside in will be much more forgiving. :thumbsup:

Rob


Rob is right. I didn't even notice that you hadn't finished the underside yet; but, there is one area peeking out by where the door will go that shows the bare wood, and you did mention that you still need to seal it.... You put a lot of effort into building something. You don't want it to be destroyed by rot or delamination because you haven't properly prepared/sealed the wood or even that you aren't happy with the end result because you didn't think about how you want to build it. I assumed you had drawn up a layout plan, even if it were only on a table napkin. Maybe you haven't. The plan should come first or you'll wish it had. Also, just sealing the underside with house paint or something like that may not be enough. So, seal the underside, edges, and screw holes of your deck with some epoxy, followed by either some undercarriage spray, roofing sealer, or other sealer; and then, while that is curing, you can finish thinking about what you want and how you want it done. Start a build thread here, on the forum; and, remember, we love the pictures!
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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby Davagio » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:28 am

48Rob wrote: I would suggest removing the floor and painting/sealing the underside first, then remounting it, paying special attention to the mounting hole areas.
Getting the wood completely sealed now will save you untold problems down the road.


Rob I should have probably been a little bit more more clear as it was my mistake for not mentioning a few things when i posted this. I am definitely going to remove the deck and use herculiner on the underside (actually the deck is currently off). The reason i had the deck on in the picture was to pre-square all the edges and to pre-drill my holes for the deck that way it goes back in exactly where i took it out at.

The body style i am looking towards is the metzendorf or the more rounded shastas, and to be honest the further i sit here the more i am deciding to change a few things here, so i am currently just trying to think of the smart approach as of now!

S. Heisley wrote: Start a build thread here, on the forum; and, remember, we love the pictures!
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By the way i wanted to thank you for that link that will come in useful as i further build on down the line! I do have a build journal named stubby standy project in the build journal section and if you get bored please feel free to check it out.

You mentioned sealing the edges which is a very smart thing, i was planning on doing this at the end but sealing around the door area would probably be a good idea since that will be exposed !
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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby Donutboy » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:13 pm

The walls. That will dictate everything else. Counter height, placement, etc.

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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby jandmz » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:44 am

Donutboy wrote:The walls. That will dictate everything else. Counter height, placement, etc.

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That's one approach. Another way of looking at it is that the cabinets, counters and partitions can be used to stiffen the overall structure, and those elements will dictate the construction of your walls.

Neither approach is right or wrong, but the advantage to building your cabinets and partitions first is that you don't have to wiggle them through the door and work in a confined space.
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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby jstrubberg » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:03 am

I would plan the walls, maybe even cut and dry fit them, but I would work on benches, cabinets, etc before I mounted the walls. So much easier to work when you can walk around the trailer and reach in than when you have to work through the door with one side of everything blocked off.
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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby bobhenry » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:26 am

My standee is a bit bigger than most but I completed the shell first. I was then able to mock up features for fit and mobility. A great counter is wonderful but if it blocks a doorway or even personal movement it's just wrong.


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In small spaces it is very easy to create conflicts. Flip up tables with out enough clearance. A extend out bed that bumps into the counter before it's fully extended, and on and on !

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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby Davagio » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:17 pm

well thank you for all your input....i actually think it might be a wise choice for me to do walls since i am relatively new to this, i might hate crawling around stuff but knowing my luck i would make everything to short or too long!
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Re: Standy....What next?!? Need some help/ideas

Postby Donutboy » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:30 pm

jandmz wrote:
Donutboy wrote:The walls. That will dictate everything else. Counter height, placement, etc.

Jerry


That's one approach. Another way of looking at it is that the cabinets, counters and partitions can be used to stiffen the overall structure, and those elements will dictate the construction of your walls.

Neither approach is right or wrong, but the advantage to building your cabinets and partitions first is that you don't have to wiggle them through the door and work in a confined space.


I built the cabinets in the camper, so getting them through the door wasn't an issue. And as a result, they are major structural components. But I did have the position of everything mapped out when building the walls.

That reminds me: When you do build the walls, if you plan to hang a window, or a vent, or an air conditioner, or whatever on the wall, you might need to build something into the wall you can attach it to.

Also, think about your wiring. You may notice that I have no clearance lights up high on the sides of the camper I built. I didn't think about it when building the walls, and when I did it was too late. :NC
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