The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:38 pm

Awesome!!! Just awesome.

Adds more fuel to the fire! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby pchast » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:43 pm

Great! :thumbsup:

Thanks for the Pix.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:59 pm

Wolffarmer wrote:Looking good again.

GPW wrote:KC, You’ll sleep much better now knowing that’s fixed !!!

NCBooger wrote:I hope when I do start my build I will have 1:100th the patience and attention to detail KC has.

Ned B wrote:KC..., way to go.

bonnie wrote:That really came out well.


Thank you all very much for your support. 8)

Tony, that pic of the Bear Grass is really something special. Great color, texture and composition. I love it. :thumbsup:

Slid the first coat of poly onto the ceiling tonight.
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Not much I could do after that, ‘cept to chat with Karl.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:37 pm

So it seems like lately I’m just picking away at one or two things a night and not really getting much done. The ceiling assembly is taking up the whole bench and table saw top, and wet poly does not take kindly to stirred up sawdust, so it comes down to an either/or proposition; apply poly or fabricate wood stuff.

The first coat of poly looked to have dried well, with few issues, but from past experience I decided to give it more time to set. By sliding the assembly on the spars sideways off the end of the work table, I could tip it down using the vent opening as a hand hold and stand it on edge on the tips of the spars. This allowed me to set it aside by myself so that I could work on other things (just had to be careful not to whack the corners of the ply on anything, including the floor).

The piece of 1/2 inch B/C plywood I bought many moons ago for the galley counter had been lying flat on the floor outside the drape area, had been getting some foot traffic on it, and wasn’t exactly staying flat. When I bought this I had the big box rough cut the length on their panel saw, making it easier to fit in the Escape hatch; they give you one free cut, but are seldom very accurate.

Anyway, the counter blank needed to be ripped down from 4 ft wide to just under 29 inches, and then cross cut to clear the inside wall separation of 60-5/8; so 60-1/2 inches the long way. Here it has been ripped and I have set up the straight edge for the crosscut using the skil saw.
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Note how I have used the low profile bar clamps so that the motor housing on the saw can pass over them. Also, because the clamps have to be at the rear, and the work piece does not match the width of the bench, the whole thing is skewed on the edge of the table. I guess this may be obvious, but then again, maybe not.

So here are some of the components that will make up the counter top. From front/left to back/right: (1) the 1x2 maple hard edge that will stiffen the front edge of the counter and span between the walls similar to a spar; (2) the substrate plywood; (3) some of the pine ledger (shown previously and below); and (4) another piece of pine that I can use to make more of the ledger.
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I haven’t decided if I want to use a stainless steel counter top; whether to bend the "front" (rear of trailer) edge down and under to form a stiffening lip (perhaps omitting the maple); leave the SS flat and recess it flush to the top of and behind the maple, matching the maple finish to the rest of the cabinets with a radius on the "front" edges; do this with laminate to save some weight; or lay the laminate over the maple and bevel the top edge together (which does not match the theme of the rounded edges). What I do know is that if the maple stays, I will rabbet the "back" edge of it so that the ply locks into it, probably using pocket screws from the underside of the ply to join them.
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Another look at the ledger profile. The side against the table is the side that will go against the walls and bulkhead; flat head screws in the face to mount it and down thru the perimeter of the ply to secure to it to the other flat side from above.
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Before heading home I put the ceiling assembly back up on the bench in the curly supported resting position.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby S. Heisley » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:39 pm

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While the teardrop continues to develop, it was nice to see what the area called Poet Creek actually looks like.
Um...You are not going to want to take that beautiful, finished teardrop on some of those rocky roads, though. ...Are you? :thinking:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:51 pm

S. Heisley wrote:You are not going to want to take that beautiful, finished teardrop on some of those rocky roads, though. ...Are you?

Sure do. That's what it is being built for. Tight precise joints biscuit joined, glued and screwed, long subtle leaf springs with shock absorbers, large AT tires with good ground clearance, Jeep TJ TV, it's all part of the master plan.

:D 8) :twisted:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby Mary C » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:57 pm

KC......WOW, you have inspired me, I have been working every day on mine..........You are getting insperation for your work too with seeing Tonys wonderful pictures of Poet creek, we all need it sometimes. Great work, looking good.

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:16 pm

Thanks Mary. I look at it this way, if you think about each and every piece that makes up your camper (or mine or his or hers), each one of those pieces needs to be figured out, sourced/scrounged, fabricated, fit, installed, and finished, sometimes in multiple stages.

That's a lot of work, and if I don't keep taking bites, it will not get done. So I try to put as much time in as I can, and I try to work in a logical order so that everything comes together as planned.

As you can see from Tony's great pictures, the thought of going to this beautiful and peacefully remote part of the country is a great "dangling carrot" that keeps me marching on.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby tony.latham » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:10 am

S. Heisley wrote:.
While the teardrop continues to develop, it was nice to see what the area called Poet Creek actually looks like.
Um...You are not going to want to take that beautiful, finished teardrop on some of those rocky roads, though. ...Are you? :thinking:


Sharon:

KC's PCE and tow vehicle will have no problem picking through the Magruder Corridor. Good rig, good tires, and a well-built 'drop. I'm just glad I can add some motivating juice to this thread with a few pics. (Not that KC seems to be lacking in stimulus.)

I'll be headed out Monday on another wandering trip through a piece of western Montana wild country I haven't seen. It'll be a dual-teardop trip with my sis's brand-new 4x8 following the dust behind my "Flash." Three nights of good company, great meals and captivating country. :FNP

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:44 pm

Thanks Tony.

On Friday I laid out and drilled the pocket holes for the screws that will hold the hard edge rail to the “front” edge of the counter.
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There was a flap of loose wood, a swirl in the grain in the middle of the rough side of the counter substrate that was loose; so I poured a little glue under it, put a scrap wrapped in butcher paper (plastic side out as a release agent), a larger scrap of wood, and a bucket of miscellaneous nuts and bolts as a weight. It did the trick.
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Seems like I didn’t get much done, so I guess there must have been some contemplation going on.

Today I knew I wanted to get a second coat of poly on the ceiling, but I wanted to get more done than that without making a lot of sawdust. So I started by cleaning the dust off of the under counter divider for the cooler bay. Then I filled all of the staple indentations with the colored putty stick.
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You might note that this panel seems to be a lighter color than most of the others. IIRC this piece was done toward the end of the big tub of stain where the pigment had started to clump and settle out. No worries; it will be dark under the counter anyway.

Next I started to dry fit the divider and counter face frame. You may recall when I built my cabinet face frames I had some issues with the pocket screws pulling the joints out of flush. While I had planed the fronts of the frames fair again, I didn’t worry too much about the backs. Since the divider butts up to the back of the open end of the counter face frame the unevenness would have left a gap, so even though I had already applied the poly, I decided to go ahead and plane this joint back fair again. Here you can see the face frame clamped face down on the bench. The thin piece under the orange clamps is just a dog to help keep it from sliding on the bench and marring the finish (and it is low enough for the plane to run off and not hit the clamps). The white area is where I flushed it off.
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Here’s a progress check. You can see the low dog in the right foreground butted up to the face frame rail, the stile along the bench, and the divider up on top. Note the gap between the stile and divider. This is what I am trying to make go away. I had to sand the edge of the divider a little, too, where its internal frame needed a little fairing.
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With that sorted and screwed to the face frame I set the subassembly in the galley to check fit.
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The curb side wall is sprung in some at the back so the counter edge rail blank was a snug fit and held itself in place when dry fit.
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Had to drop the counter in for a test fit.
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This shot shows how the rail caps the top of the face frame, but still leaves a small reveal.
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Knocked that back apart and, working on the bench, I squared everything up and screwed down through the top into the face frame and divider.
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Back to the ceiling assembly. Scuffed the whole thing down with 220 grit in prep for the 2nd coat of poly. Here I have started dusting the first section off, before wiping with mineral spirits.
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And here it is with the second coat on. After about a half hour drying time it seemed to be safe to prop it back up into the “curly resting position”.
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All in all, a pretty good day.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby Mary C » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:05 am

expert work, pretty and well done!!!

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:18 am

Thank you Mary! :)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:37 pm

tony.latham wrote:I'll be headed out Monday on another wandering trip through a piece of western Montana wild country I haven't seen. It'll be a dual-teardop trip with my sis's brand-new 4x8 following the dust behind my "Flash." Three nights of good company, great meals and captivating country. :FNP Tony

I look forward to seeing your report! :thumbsup:

S. Heisley wrote:You are not going to want to take that beautiful, finished teardrop on some of those rocky roads, though. ...Are you?

I just want to add, when I first got my custom Harley, one of the first things I did was to go on Pappy's Run. When we got to the cemetery where Pappy is buried the road turned to sand and gravel. I was more concerned for the custom paint on my bike than I was for the respect that I had for the man that was instrumental in organizing a resurgence of our freedom to choose here in CT; so I didn't go into the cemetery and join in the ceremony that we were riding to commemorate. I caught some flake for that, and in retrospect, I have regretted it ever since.

Yes helmets save lives, but there is a greater issue of personal responsibility. And you all know where I stand on the gun control issue. This is like that.

To truly honor my father, I will build it the best that I can, and I will take it "out there" thru the rocks and the sand and the bramble.

Thank you Sharon for asking the question that allowed me to express myself.

Communicate. Let people know what you are feeling. Don't be ashamed to express yourself. There is no way that people will know what you are thinking or how you feel if you don't say what you feel.

Sounds a little mushy, but I can assure you that I am a manly man. It takes the courage of a man to admit this.

(Watching the drags right now... if Shirley Muldowney was reading this right now she would scoff at "the love fest" going on at the top end. :lol: :lol: )
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:54 am

KC, you’re into all kinds of manly “stuff” ... 8)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby Shar » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:35 pm

Great to see an actual Poet Creek sign! Keep up the good work KC! :thumbsup:
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