LGBT in Teardrops

[nevadatear]

I have found teardroppers as a rule, are generally a little off beam of mainstream anyway. We camp in weird little trailers and enjoy the company of others who do the same. I don't see the problem.

[Mary C]

As long as she doesn't have a green nose 8 inches long and a forehead that's flat and 6 inches tall and talks with a computer sounding voice then I don't see any problems. I saw one of those a few years ago after a wine tasting campfire, or was it purple nose.

Mary C.

[legojenn]

Ha....don't expect a good sense here....it's impossible to have an opinion contrary to our society today besides the pan sexual (do what thou whilst) and not be punished. The LGBT movement has moved beyond acceptance into desiring dominance.

Were all being conditioned, or have been conditioned, to believing that sex is purely for satisfaction and it's ok to do whatever you want (do what thou whilst) without judgment by anyone. Yesterday it was free love, today it's LGBT tomorrow well see other forms of expression deemed as acceptable. Pedophilia, polygamy, beastiality, and who knows what else are all waiting in the wings to be normalized. It's only a matter of time.

Just by having an opinion other than "Do what thou whilst" you are putting a fire suit on.

The bottom line, is personally I find the lifestyle abhorrent (but not the person) and I don't like to witness it. They are still human being with the dignity that God gave us all. I would deal with it. Perhaps, a conversation at some point would be a deeper dive into this message content...

There are two social camps....LGBT and westboro baptist. Both are wrong. There is a third way....and it's what I believe.

Would I be uncomfortable...yes. Would I engage in name calling or other hateful acts, NO. The wost I would probably do is invite them to Explore the third way, and perhaps be on my way home a day or two early. If they can't tolerate my view, the. They can't expect me to tolerate theirs.

Hmm....now, where are the fire retardant gloves.

I am glad that I didn't eat before reading this. I think that I would have thrown up in my mouth had I done so. I don't think that I have read anything on this forum that has been more offensive. I think that it's offensive that you would consider a large and varied group of people who advocate for human rights equal to a family who abuse religion, the legal system and the media to advocate hatred. To even call being gay or transsexual a lifestyle reeks of ignorance. Living in a small town v. a big city is a lifestyle choice. Choosing to not suppress an innate part of one's personality is not. The fact that you would leave a gathering early betrays your claim that you don't find people of a certain class abhorrent. It's a shame that this attitude still exists and it goes a long way to make people feel unwelcome.

[wincrasher]

Some people's views are really repugnant. It's sad they don't realize it and how immoral and unAmerican they are. Hopefully they evolve alittle bit.

As far as being accepting, I can only speak for myself, but I'd think it's great. Our hobby is suffering from dwindling demographics over all, so if there are any interested in pursuing it, I'm all for it. I'd make a point of going over and saying hello, at a minimum.

Many people are uncomfortable outside their comfort zone. Mostly it's from non-exposure to people different than them. The best thing to do, is to engage people you don't think you'd like and find out that they really aren't all that different.

My 2 cents, FWIW.

[DrCrash]

Wow this went ugly !
Can we talk about gun's now ?

[glenpinpat]

"I am glad that I didn't eat before reading this. I think that I would have thrown up in my mouth had I done so. I don't think that I have read anything on this forum that has been more offensive. I think that it's offensive that you would consider a large and varied group of people who advocate for human rights equal to a family who abuse religion, the legal system and the media to advocate hatred. To even call being gay or transsexual a lifestyle reeks of ignorance. Living in a small town v. a big city is a lifestyle choice. Choosing to not suppress an innate part of one's personality is not. The fact that you would leave a gathering early betrays your claim that you don't find people of a certain class abhorrent. It's a shame that this attitude still exists and it goes a long way to make people feel unwelcome."


I have made many friends from the LGBT community since owning a teardrop and would be less of a person without them. Love is still Love

[Law Dawg (Ret)]

I have a friend who happens to be interested in buying a teardrop trailer and she knows I am an enthusiast and just a bit opinionated
She would also like to come to some of the gatherings but is some what concerned about how she would be received because she is a post-op transsexual. I told her that I have been to gatherings where there were Gay and Lesbian couples and singles and know there were transgender individuals present and have yet to see a single negative response. I must say I have been surprised, pleasantly, as the demographics and backgrounds in this community are as diverse as they are in the LGBT communities.
She asked so I said I will make a post in T&TTT and see what sort of response I get.

I know someone thinking of buying a TD and is a very devoted Christian. Tries to gauge his life by the Scriptures as much as possible and when rudely confronted by sin will speak out directly and honestly. He strives to speak the truth in love but like all of us is not perfect. He holds that, with common grace, we can all behave with manners but does not expect those who do not have the Holy Spirit (read; not saved) to hold to Christians standards....hard enough with the Spirit.

Is someone like that going to be welcome too? Reading a couple of replies here I wonder.

[kd8cgo]

this is a test

[48Rob]

I know someone thinking of buying a TD and is a very devoted Christian. Tries to gauge his life by the Scriptures as much as possible and when rudely confronted by sin will speak out directly and honestly. He strives to speak the truth in love but like all of us is not perfect. He holds that, with common grace, we can all behave with manners but does not expect those who do not have the Holy Spirit (read;not saved) to hold to Christians standards....hard enough with the Spirit. Is someone like that going to be welcome too?

I think what it really amounts to for most, and especially me, is that as long as a person is nice, and we share the same interests, we will get along just fine.

If this Christian person comes to my camp and corrects me/shows disapproval of my speech, belief, etc, then they will no longer be welcome.

I don't care who you believe in, how you dress, what you are.
When camping, or on a teardrop camper board, all those things should be kept private anyway.
When I meet someone, I don't say; "Hi, my name is Rob and I am a (fill in the blank).
I say hello, and we discuss campers or camping or some related topic.
Religion, preferences, etc, should not enter into the conversation, here, or there...unless the purpose is to stir the pot...

Rob

[kd8cgo]

this is a test

[jstrubberg]

As long as someone is looking for acceptance and not dominance (i.e. parades), I really don't see where it's any of my business. No one else choices invalidate the one my wife and I made 26 years ago between the two of us.

Now if you start insisting that you have the right to have public sex (don't watch some of those parades if you don't have a strong stomach!) or that me asking you to keep your relationship to yourself rather than offering my kids an impromptu sex education class is somehow impinging on your rights as an individual, we are gonna have an issue. Respect is respect, regardless of gender or sexual preference.

[Shadow Catcher]

This has been an interesting discussion. She is a very nice person whom I have gotten to know well and you will never guess that she is transgender. As for the biblical she is quite knowledgeable, and BTW I know two transgender Catholic priests, four of the five female to male Jewish Rabies an assortment of Southern Baptist pastors... You might ask how I know this, I am working on a text book, transgender, for the helping professions.

[George Taylor]

I know this, we all do 3 things when camping (me 2 of them). We like to eat great food, drink, and relax. So if she likes to them, great.

[kd8cgo]

This has been an interesting discussion. She is a very nice person whom I have gotten to know well and you will never guess that she is transgender. As for the biblical she is quite knowledgeable, and BTW I know two transgender Catholic priests, four of the five female to male Jewish Rabies an assortment of Southern Baptist pastors... You might ask how I know this, I am working on a text book, transgender, for the helping professions.

Wow, a field expert that likes teardrops, holy cow!

I have noticed a large representation of people in helping professions in camping and even full time RV'ing. I was watching some video interviews of a NuRVers gathering, and there were quite a few life coaches among the group, as well as a retired pastor, school teachers, etc. I wonder if that is just a spurious correlation or if there is something else to it.

[ssutton]

Just a few of my my thoughts on this matter. First, I am a Christian and I follow the teachings of Christ as best that I can understand them in the Bible. I also try to follow his example of "reaching" out to people.

To me....in scripture....I see that the example of Jesus to be sorta like a store owner who has lots of wonderful things in his store. His store has a large front window for all who pass by to look in and marvel at all of these wonderful things that are offered. The store owner (Jesus) leaves it up to the person to decide if they want to come in or not based solely on there choice and interest in what they see. Now, here is where it gets interesting, when a person decides to come in and see what Jesus has to offer that person is met at the door by Jesus himself. It is then explained to them that EVERYTHING in the store has been paid in full by Jesus and that it is all for their them. This stores stock never depletes, its open to ANYONE who chooses to come in. One day, many years ago I walked into His store. I have found everything that I did not have in His store, and it brings me overwhelming joy to take part in all that He has to offer. But the best part.......is getting to know that store owner himself. Why He offers what he does is the fact that now matter what I have done in life, He loves me totally unconditionally. Here is what he asked of me in return. That I would open a "store" and fill it with all of HIS inventory. My store must have a large front window for all who pass by to look into. I must welcome all who come into my store based solely on their decision to come in and inquire about what they see in me (my store). I do not own any of the contents of whats in my store therefore its not for sale, but to be freely given away just as it was to me.

So, would I camp by someone who might see things differently than me? Absolutely! Would I try to force them into my "store" and see things my way? Absolutely not! Would I welcome them if they wanted to know more about whats inside of me (my store) based solely on what they see. Totally!

Scott Sutton